I owe the List a debt of gratitude. Late in 2013 I rolled out an RSU 
package that I thought would prepare us for 2.1. While casually perusing 
this thread, I discovered with growing horror that my maintenance bundle 
had failed to include the bulk of the FIXCAT list, including hardware 
support and software conditioning. I'm not sure how I managed to screw up, 
but this thread clued me in to the gross oversight. Thanks. 

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JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]



From:   Marna WALLE <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected], 
Date:   01/09/2014 01:39 PM
Subject:        Re: z/OS 2.1 toleration PTFs
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



I'd like to jump in with a couple of comments from prior appends, and 
generally confirm what others have said...

z/OS V2.1 and z/OS R11 is not coexistence supported.  "Coexistence" means 
sharing resources either concurrently or non-concurrently.  A sysplex 
environment is definitely sharing resources, and is covered by 
"coexistence" requirements.  With this in mind, do not try to share z/OS 
R11 and z/OS V2.1 resources.  Do not try to IPL a z/OS R11 system into a 
sysplex containing z/OS V2.1.  Do  not try to IPL a z/OS V2.1 system into 
a sysplex containing z/OS R11.  Some people use the term "coexistence" and 
"toleration" differently, but when I talk about z/OS coexistence these 
mean the same thing - they mean sharing of any kind between z/OS systems. 

Running a REPORT MISSINGFIX with the FIXCAT of IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R1 
against a z/OS R11 target zone may give you very interesting results, 
which you cannot interpret as coexistence support!  It may be fun and 
curious to do, if that's what you want, but don't take it further than 
that. The SMP/E report in this scenario will identify z/OS R11 PTFs for 
various reasons, none of which you should take to mean that it is 
coexistence supported.  Indeed, it may be confusing that you can run such 
a report, and get output from it, but that output should not be construed 
as "if I have these PTFs installed on z/OS R11, I can run in a sysplex 
with z/OS V2.1".  As you see, several of the R11 PTFs in this interesting 
SMP/E report will be cancelled, and not retrievable with Shopz or SMP/E 
RECEIVE ORDER.  That's actually a good thing, as some folks may take this 
to mean that z/OS R11 is coexistence support and think that they are 
"safe" to have z/OS R11 and V2.1 coexist.

Keep with what the z/OS Planning for Installation and z/OS Migration books 
say:  three consecutive releases supported for coexistence.  That is: z/OS 
R12, R13, and V2.1.  I wish we had a way of getting SMP/E to produce that 
in a REPORT MISSINGFIX report!

-Marna WALLE
z/OS Installation
IBM Poughkeepsie

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