Hi Rob and Shane,

Yes this is a "one-off" at least we hope it. In this shop they have some
sort of policy in capturing dumps vs DASD space that I do not like to
comment. Far beyond cranky feels more appropriate.

Thanks Rob, that's such a nice first guess (I did understand your (1) )

But then, if they're not able to patch the program in order to clean all
the mess and do not leave exits behind, is there something we can do to
clean the Address ourselves. I can't think about anything "not dangerous".

Regards,

Ferran


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Rob Scott <rsc...@rocketsoftware.com>wrote:

> Of course, the first line should be :
>
> "(1) You have an ISV product that is detecting a new address space or
> jobstep - (maybe via the IEFUJI or IEFUSI)."
>
> Rob Scott
> Lead Developer
> Rocket Software
> 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
> Tel: +1.781.684.2305
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Rob Scott
> Sent: 15 April 2014 10:20
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Dumps when starting Started Tasks
>
> Only a guess, however this is what my first suspicion would be :
>
> (1) You have an ISV product that is detecting a new address or jobstep -
> (maybe via the IEFUJI or IEFUSI).
> (2) The ISV product exit is attempting to notify its associated server via
> a cross-memory post using an ASCB address stored somewhere in common
> storage.
> (3) It is possible your ISV product has terminated without cleaning up,
> leaving behind the exit and the common storage control block.
> (3a) It is also possible that the common storage block has been overlaid
> somehow without the ISV server terminating.
> (4) The exit is attempting to cross-memory post using bad (or out of date)
> information from the common storage control block.
>
> This would explain the S602 abends that you are seeing.
>
> Capture a dump and you should be able to find the address of the
> POST-issuing program.
>
> Rob Scott
> Lead Developer
> Rocket Software
> 77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
> Tel: +1.781.684.2305
> Email: rsc...@rs.com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Ferran Perxas
> Sent: 15 April 2014 08:29
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Dumps when starting Started Tasks
>
> Good morning,
>
> Yesterday we had an issue I'd like to share just in case someone has
> experienced it before.
>
> Sometime in the morning this piece of log appeared on syslog
>
> IEE501I CONSOLE UC4CN000 FAILED, REASON=ABTERM.  ALL ALTERNATES
> UNAVAILABLE , CONSOLE IS NOT SWITCHED
> IEA631I  OPERATOR UC4CN000 NOW INACTIVE, SYSTEM=CPUA    , LU=UC4TR000
>
> IEE828E SOME MESSAGES NOW SENT TO HARDCOPY ONLY
>
> Please notice this is not a "standard" console, it is somehow related to
> the product UC4 which is a Batch scheduler. We are still talking to support
> in order to know how this exactly works.
>
> The real problem was that from this moment no started tasks could be
> started, all of them crashed on start:
>
> START MVTASA.ST8005
> $HASP100 MVTASA   ON STCINRDR
> OMS9612I PROCESSING INIT (STC09784)
> IEF695I START MVTASA   WITH JOBNAME MVTASA   IS ASSIGNED TO USER STCSYS
>  , GROUP STCGRP
> $HASP373 MVTASA   STARTED
> IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 893
> SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=602  REASON CODE=00000000
>  TIME=08.32.24  SEQ=09184  CPU=0041  ASID=008F
>  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   80FEB316  ILC 2  INTC 0D
>    NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
>    NAME=UNKNOWN
>    DATA AT PSW  00FEB310 - 00181610  0A0D0000  00FF6258
>    AR/GR 0: 00000000/84000000   1: 00000000/84602000
>          2: 0181001D/00000000   3: 00000000/00F61100
>          4: 00000000/008FFBF8   5: 00000000/000AB76C
>          6: 00000000/89494736   7: 00000000/00FB8D00
>          8: 00000000/00FEA621   9: 00000000/00000000
>          A: 00000000/00000000   B: 00000000/008FECA8
>          C: 00000000/00000041   D: 00000000/0BF00E78
>          E: 00000000/00FF0280   F: 00000000/00000000
>  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=*UNAVAIL, ASID=008F.
> $HASP310 MVTASA   TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
>
> We arrived a few minutes later. At this point some critical tasks in this
> shop required to be started as a started task so we had to stop and IPL the
> whole LPAR before major incidents appeared. With the fresh IPL the whole
> system worked fine.
>
> The last few lines of log (stopping JES2) during the stop showed us these
> lines.
>
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=*UNAVAIL, ASID=0024.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME=*UNAVAIL, ASID=002D.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME/ASID NOT AVAILABLE.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME/ASID NOT AVAILABLE.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME/ASID NOT AVAILABLE.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME/ASID NOT AVAILABLE.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME/ASID NOT AVAILABLE.
> IEA989I SLIP TRAP ID=X33E MATCHED.  JOBNAME/ASID NOT AVAILABLE.
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
> $HASP310 INIT     TERMINATED AT END OF MEMORY
>
> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>
> Regards,
> Ferran
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