I'm saddened, but not surprised, that you got off-list "nasty" replies. I am lucky in that I have not been a recipient of such a thing. At least not so far. The mention of INDIA is probably the hallmark of someone who is really angry at U.S. management going for the "lowest bidder". At times, that is wise. But, unfortunately, that tends to make it possible for relatively unskilled people to land jobs for which they are not qualified. Which then builds resentment when such a one, or one who is perceived to be such a one, asks for help. Like being underbid on a house improvement contract, then having the winner ask for unpaid help on that same job.
Now, anybody who has been here very long should at least remember your name. You're not a total unknown. But some of what I have read here reminds me of another forum, to which I no longer subscribe, where a self-proclaimed "PERL wizard" was constantly berating others if they made any reply that _he_ considered to be "stupid". He basically ranted that he had better things to do with his time than correct know-nothing <elided> people who should just kept their stupid mouths shut. I realize now that he most likely has some sort of psych problem. But I still wouldn't consider going back. Too toxic. I really hope this forum does not go that way. But the word "civility" seems to be less and less useful any more. Oh, well, I still anticipate my off-world transfer orders coming soon. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Brian Westerman < brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > I don't mean to complain, well, in this case I do, but I really have to > wonder about some of the people on this list. I have been a systems > programmer and a developer for over 25 years and have written hundreds of > thousands of lines of code and provided help to literally thousands of > people both on and off these lists, but I have never received an offlist > comment like the one I received from Elardus Engelbrecht today. To say > that I am offended is a bit much, but I am definitely disappointed. > > Why would someone say one thing on the list and then that exact same > person send two emails offlist acting as if I killed their puppy? > > Just because I have never written a UJI or UJV exit that required me to > process the actual account number text string and asked if someone else had > that could provide me with an example doesn't mean that I don't know > anything about exits or coding. At least I didn't think so, but maybe I'm > all wrong. > > I had thought that it was attrition which was reducing the content of the > lists, but possibly it's just that when people ask if someone has already > written something to save some time or effort, only to be accused of not > knowing anything about being a "real" systems programmer, can be a bit > jarring. > > I have no problem with people calling me Brain instead of Brian, but I > don't understand why anyone would rant at someone they don't even know and > denigrate their expertise (which is not only incorrect and improper, but > rude). > > His final comment on the email was way out of line, just like the rest of > the email (s) (there were two because I guess you just can't insult > someone once without going back for more) and I will paste it exactly as he > wrote it: > > "Brain : Are you in INDIA because anybody in the USA, knows about these > basics ?" > > > Now, I don't know what about my question yesterday set him off, but with > these types of people on the list I can understand why less people are > participating now. > > I'm sorry to have bothered the busy people on the list and I will write > the exit without any input. > > Brian Westerman > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- There is nothing more pleasant than traveling and meeting new people! Genghis Khan Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
