err MS is the major issue not so much the others.
Ed
On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:08 AM, Aled Hughes wrote:

What amazed me was that the President of the US invited the heads of Microsoft, Google and Apple to a meeting to discuss systems security! These are the people that essentially caused the problem in the first place. And why wasn't IBM invited? Allegedly, 65 - 70% of the world's data is held on mainframes. Not sure if that includes all the movies etc held on home PCs.

ALH







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On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:54:22 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

The examples you give are all software.

Indeed.
Let's hope people think about the included software when they're buying
hardware. History doesn't inspire confidence.

Then again, when bodies supposedly mandated to protect national security apparently compromise the firmware of commercial hard drives, what chance do we
have ?.

Shane ...

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