On 15Mar29:1638-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > On 15Mar29:1453-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > > I still haven't seen a plausible answer; not even a guess. > > The only one tendered, "OS/MVT/ASP" strikes me as absolutely > > incredible. > > Sheesh. I've sent an email to one of the primary sysprogs-- > hopefully he'll speak definitively on this matter.
This very mailing list's archives provide some clues. >From http://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/mdIah1e3/model-91 > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-***@BAMA.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Frank Pajerski > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 22:53 Hrs. > To: IBM-***@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: model 91 > > There were two known 360/95's in public use ... at > 1) NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Bldg 3 (Greenbelt Md) from 1968(?) > where we ( Frank Pajerski, Gene Czarcinski, Frank Ross, Herb Durbeck ) > sysprog'ed our way thru various MVT releases and the RITS/CRBE/CRJE > lead-up to TSO on it and two 75's and a 65 with all the classic hardware > like 2321 datacells and 2301 drums, and sneered at our friends with only > a lowly 360/91 across the road in Bldg 1. We (FrankP and GeneC and > FrankR) left in the 1978 timeframe for various green pastures elsewhere > (California and the CIA and the wilds of very western Maryland), and I > received news in 1983(?) of its shutdown then. One of the unwelcome > things that it had was S0C0 (imprecise) abends which dared me to > determined just where in the six or more pipelined-instructions was the > real problem. > 2) NASA Goddard Institute for Space Sciences, squeezed into a brownstone > rowhouse near Columbia in NYC, where it ran VM while surrounded by > mouse/rat-traps as the staff coped with more than just bugs. It likely > also came in during 1968(?), but don't know when it left ... but the > coming/going must have been quite an effort what with the too-narrow > doors and windows there. > > Don't know if NSA just up the road had one or more of these tucked away. > > --- Frank Pajerski and from http://ibm-main.listserv.bit.groups.com.ru/5716-model_91 > Subject model 91 > From smit...@us.ibm.com William Smith > Date 3 Oct 2003 20:05:34 -0700 > Newsgroups bit.listserv.ibm-main > > > The 360/95... Not to be confused with the 195. There were only two 95s > built: One was located at Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC) in Greenbelt, > MD, Bldg. 3/14, and the other was located at the Goddard Institute for > Space Studies in New York. Sitting next to it were 2 75's and a 30. > Across the street in Bldg. 1 was another 75 and a real 91. The two lead 95 > systems programmers were Gene Czarcinski and Frank Pajerski, the creator of > the now famous "Goddard Goddies Tape", who also managed a 65 in Bldg. 14 > running the SVS HASP4 retrofit with a 370 instruction simulator. > > The GSFC 95 had 2 drums, 1 data cell, 5 1403 line printers, 2 strings of > 2314 "pizza oven" style DASD, 2 2540 card reader punches, 16 2400 tape > drives, ran CRJE, CRBE, APL/360, ALGOL, SNOBOL, TCAM 5, a highly modified > version of Fortran H (maintained under contract by Boole & Babbage and > CSC), TSO with a whopping max of 60 TSO users in 3 REGIONS, used the now > famous "LSPS" mods including APG on MVT 21.8F with ASP. It had 5 megs of > real CORE memory and no commercial instruction set. It's misson was backup > to Houston and satellite apogee/perigee determination. I was 19 years old, > my first summer college job, and I mounted tapes and pulled print outs off > of it in 1972. > > Finally, got my hands on the master console in 1973, the light pen, and the > "pedal" to DOM requests. No ITF BASIC. COBOL decimal arithmetic (software > simulated, a SYSGEN option) brought it to its knees. This was one > awesomely incredible machine: pipe line processing, imprecise interrupts > and could grind away on Laplace transforms, differential equations, and > sparse matrices faster than anything at the time. It was truly a visionary > engineering marvel. Mean time to re-IPL: about 4 hours. I sure wish I > had the sign mounted across the huge 200+ light panel that read "IBM System > 360". I was 22 year old operator during Apollo Soyuz in July, '75. And... > splash down party beer was kept cold under the raised floor. > > Rose colored glasses..... and dating myself. > > William J. Smith > smit...@us.ibm.com (Lotus Notes) > sfo...@sbcglobal.net (Home ISP) > IBM Systems Group San Jose > DFSMS Integration & Packaging Technical Lead > "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." > (408) 256-1557, T/L 276-1557 I was confused between the 95s and the 91, it is clear. The 91 was in Building 1, and I didn't have much to do with those guys. I did not see its OS mentioned in my less than exhaustive reading of all the posts. Schmuel and Lynn were participants in those threads-- are any neurons being triggered by rereading this stuff? -- <not cent from sell> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig______________________________________________ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. 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