Hi Ed,

If you will be using the FTP JES interface, I suggest you review our RACF Tips 
newsletter article on this topic.

http://www.rshconsulting.com/racftips/RSH_Consulting__RACF_Tips__April_2010.pdf

Regards, Bob

-----Original Message-----
Date:    Fri, 17 Apr 2015 01:34:16 -0400
From:    Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: A Total Eclipse of the Spool

AFAIK z/OS explorer uses ftp to interface with JES for retrieving output.

Rob Schramm
On Apr 13, 2015 6:56 AM, "Steve Austin" <steve.aus...@macro4.com> wrote:

> Hello Ed,
> Do you use any Macro 4 products (Tubes, DumpMaster, TraceMaster, InSync,
> to name a few)?
> If you do then our z/Explorer Eclipse offering is free to use. It
> provides access to z/OS datasets and Unix files, allows jobs to be
> submitted and the JES spool to be viewed without SDSF as a pre-req, and
> it even has a 3270 emulator. Please contact your local Macro 4 or UNICOM
> rep who will be only too happy to assist. If you don't use any of our
> products then I am sure they can help you if you cannot find an
> alternative resolution.
> Regards
> Keith Banham
> R&D Manager
> Macro 4 Ltd
>
>
> Thanks
> Keith Banham
> Manager and Lead Engineer
> Research and Development
> Macro 4 Limited
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Ed Long
> Sent: 12 April 2015 03:47
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: A Total Eclipse of the Spool
>
> I have been tasked with deploying Data Studio, the DB2 no charge
> offering in the IBM Eclipse product set. z/OS, CICS and IMS explorers
> round out the no charge offerings.
> The target audience is not the long time, old time, 3270 types, but the
> short time, new time Java, C# types who need to access z/OS data or
> resources sometimes. They are not going to go through a 12 week master
> the mainframe course since 90% of their work is off host.
> I can get Data Studio working, even sort of compatibly with z/OS
> explorer. At least both of these 2 will be deployed together.
> I can get z/OS explorer to submit jcl, a requirement for some database
> activities envisioned. Its builtin sysout retrieval function requires
> SDSF and fairly heavy RACF configuration work.
> However, we don't have SDSF; we have IOF. None of the necessary JES/RACF
> stuff has been set up, even if IOF supports the function, to get z/OS
> explorer to download the sysout. While SDSF and doing the configuration
> stuff is the obvious answer, getting there would take an unplanned major
> effort.
> My question: What other options do I have to be able to retrieve
> listings from within Eclipse?
> For specific use cases, we could write reports to datasets and then use
> the z/OS explorer to browse the dataset. This approach would mean the
> listing would be unavailable but any reports would be.
> We can assume that their jcl will be comparatively simple (Less than 10
> steps and much of it generated and heavily reliant on procedures).
> I've been considering FTP which has a JES interface.
> For phase 1 of this activity we assume there might be 100 target
> developers.
> Comments and suggestions most appreciated.
>
> Edward Long
>
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