I'm sure that GDPS can do more than what we use it for. We mirror and recover 
parallel sysplexes as well between data centers. Even if I had only monoplexes 
mission critical to my business, I would still use DASD mirroring (XRC or 
whatever) and recover at a 'cool' site via GDPS, which handles DASD and CECs 
alike. In my view, what's truly crucial to a business is data. I need to IPL a 
system to resume business with data intact. If a few hours elapse, so be it. 
Compare that with the ancient goal (wish) of restoring data from tape. Hopeless.

The thought of running a parallel sysplex across data centers 100+ KM apart 
gives me the freaking heebie-jeebies. Even if my communication (DWDM) were 
absolutely 100% reliable, where would my data actually live? Volume ABC123 
lives at one data center or the other. If the owning data center fails, my 
sysplex is toast. If I mirror ABC123, I can only update one copy or the other. 
I can't update both or I'll screw the 'other' guy. Maybe there are technical 
answers that I don't understand. I stand to be educated. 

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Rob Schramm
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: LPAR MOBILITY

But GDPS is not just a Disaster Recovery solution.  It can "live" swap from 
data center to data center, within data centers.  Are you saying that you are 
just a base sysplex using GDPS?

Rob Schramm

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:55 PM J O Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> GDPS has about as much to do with 'parallel sysplex' as TSO has to do 
> with 'time sharing'. For us, GDPS automates disaster recovery. Before 
> GDPS, we had to do a lot of manual procedures that GDPS performs 
> without the need for fingers on a keyboard. Included in our DR 
> environment is one monoplex LPAR that runs TPX. This LPAR has no need 
> for sysplex resources but has to run in DR, which we view as business 
> resumption after a catastrophic data center failure. RTO is important, 
> but a few hours is far preferable to the alternative abyss.
>
> .
> .
> .
> J.O.Skip Robinson
> Southern California Edison Company
> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> 626-302-7535 Office
> 323-715-0595 Mobile
> jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Rob Schramm
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:21 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: LPAR MOBILITY
>
> Interesting, never thought someone would consider GDPS on anything but 
> parallel sysplex.  What would be the point?  I could buy a Ferrari and 
> remove the wheels.. But it wouldn't be much fun...and would be a very 
> expensive chair.
>
> Seems more like the person is looking for parallel sysplex / 
> sysplex-in-a-box plus automation.
>
> Rob Schramm
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2015, 9:01 AM IBMZOS < 
> 000000af65f10fb1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Thank's Jan for detailed reply. Yes for the impact of LPM. We use it 
> > for planned outages, and work fine. I cannot do with my sysplex, 
> > because your reply is applicable to a Parallel sysplex, which is a 
> > HIGH
> step forward.
> > From all the reply, i understand that Parallel Syplex is really the 
> > solution. Just curious if LPM or Live Guest Migration is announced 
> > one day on Z/OS, for planned outages...

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