Being able to install maintenance separately can be very important depending on 
your shop's organization and the distribution of duties among (even a small 
number of) folks. I see two classes of components: 

1) Those closely akin to z/OS that install on and migrate with sysres.
2) Those not in category 1, including products managed by other people on their 
own timetable. 

I believe that it's best for category 2 products to be installed in one or more 
zones outside of the common z/OS zone and even ordered separately. For example, 
we tried a while back ordering Omegastuff in the common ServerPac. But some 
Omegamon products here needed to be managed in concert with new CICS or DB2 
releases irrespective of z/OS level. Combining did not work and caused problems 
for other folks. Once components begin cohabitating in a single zone, handling 
them by different rules is complicated, time-consuming, and error prone. 
Omegamon is especially unruly because of the manual (non-SMPE) work needed for 
migration. We went back to ordering and managing Omegamon separately.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:10 AM
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Subject: (External):SMPE apply excluding certain FMID's?

I've done that, and it works.  I guess I should have been more clear to Kurt's 
question.  I actually would like to maintenance Omegamon's separately than the 
rest of the Operating system.  The issue is being able to apply general 
maintenance to all other FMID's with the exception of OMEGAMON at my choosing.  
It's not a huge issue, more of general convenience for the folks that will have 
to review Omegamon hold data.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert A. Rosenberg [mailto:hal9...@panix.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:55 PM
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Cc: Jousma, David
Subject: Re: SMPE apply excluding certain FMID's?

At 14:35 +0000 on 11/19/2015, Jousma, David wrote about Re: SMPE apply 
excluding certain FMID's?:

>Do you really want/need to segregate applying maintenance for the 
>Omegamon suite, or during a maintenance cycle do you simply want to 
>more easily identify the relevant HOLDs just for >Omegamon?  I don't 
>necessarily have in mind a solution for you, but I'm curious what your 
>real goal is.
>
>The latter.

An APPLY CHECK listing your created Omagamon FMIDSET (or the FMIDs) will give 
you this info since only Omegamon SYSMODs will be selected.

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