We did a conversion 3 -> 2 many years ago, but it was more moving work from a 
Jes3 system to a Jes2 system, not converting an existing system from one to the 
other.

It really depends on the complexity of the exploitation of the Jes3 constructs 
- How your Global/Local setup is, Do you depend on Setup to have resources in 
place, do you schedule with a scheduling package or use DJC's etc.etc.

Biggest problem we faced was not the technical migration, but the education of 
our users of JCL and exposing them to new concepts. We had identified the risk 
there but it turned out to be a bigger challenge then we (the technicians) 
expected.

Jerry Whitteridge
Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage
Albertsons - Safeway Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Cheryl Watson
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: JES3 to JES2 Migration (was JES2 to JES3 Migration)

Yes, Lizette - I meant to say JES3 to JES2.  Thanks!

Has anyone who has done this have an estimate of the amount of time it might 
take, and the effort?

Cheryl

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: JES2 to JES3 Migration

Cheryl,

I am guessing you meant the subject to say JES3 to JES2 migration???

The one challenge I see is the JCL is different between the two environments.
JES2 use /* (eg. /*ROUTE) and JES3 uses //* (eg //*MAIN)

JES2 has no master JES system, JES3 has a Master.  So in JES2 jobs can either 
run where the JCL is converted or anywhere in the JESMAS.


There is also the concept in JES3 that until all resources available, the job 
will not run.  JES2 it can run and wind up waiting on resources.

Those are about the differences I can think of off the top of my head.

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 7:01 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: JES2 to JES3 Migration
>
> A customer asked us for suggestions for performing a JES3 to JES2 migration.
> Are there products that will help in this, or do you know any
> companies who perform this migration?  You can reply off-list if you prefer.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Cheryl
> cheryl at watsonwalker.com

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