That's what I figured.  Sounds like a lot of "Developer: Systems, can you make 
this change; Systems: OK; done; Developer: Well that didn't work, can you try 
this instead?" back and forth.  Not my idea of fun.  Oh well; I have no such 
requirement at this point.  Just pondering the future...

Frank

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Hi Frank,

since policy agent belongs to Communication Server and used to have some 
requirements to be started before TCPIP, I would guess that in most shops a 
developer cannot do that.
Except maybe for play LPARs and zPDT.

Denis.

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Curious question.  Is this something a developer could do in order to test this 
out, or does it require System level access?

Frank
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Hi Andrew,

have a look at the following sample, where just the jobname and the outbound 
port specify the need to use tls.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.cfzu100/step6b.htm
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Example: Configuring AT-TLS for secure communication This topic shows the 
exemplary setup of the Policy Agent to secure communication for the CIM server.


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Example: Configuring AT-TLS for secure communication This topic shows the 
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Scroll down to the sample policy that says outbound.
Maybe thats all you need to do, but I have not tested it.

Denis.

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On 17/06/2017 03:05 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
> It's validated the same way(s) any TLS client app (such as your desktop
> browser) validates a server certificate. I'm not sure why you seem to think
> this can't be done without client application program involvement.

There are 2 things that need to be validated with the certificate:
- That is is valid, i.e. has been signed by a trusted CA etc. AND

- That it belongs to the entity that the client is trying to connect to.

The description of AT-TLS says it takes control when the connection is
opened, but at this point name resolution has already occurred, hasn't it?

So how does AT-TLS know who the client is trying to connect to so it can
check the name in the certificate? I guess it would have to intercept
name resolution and assume that later connections to a resolved IP
address must match the name.

Or, maybe it is not intended for this type of general SSL connection.

I have been reading the documentation, but haven't been able to find
anything about how (or whether) the name in the certificate is validated.

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