So without getting into a philosophical discussion here, it is 100 times easier 
for cloning and manipulation of ZFS (SYSTEM ONLY) files, when nothing currently 
exists in SMS routines, besides some HLQ's.  Yes I can set this up in SMS and 
build ACS routines and init volumes as SMS, ETC, as I am the storage admin, 
RACF, and sysprog, so everything is doable.  For now, I am going to take the 
path of least resistance for now and just init my secondary RES volume as SMS 
and add to my storage group.

When I install z/OS 2.3, I will fix this and make it non-sms then.

Ms Terri E Shaffer
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Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files

This question has overtones (undertones?) reminiscent of avoiding PDSE. Just 
isn't necessary. Our HFS/ZFS files have been SMS managed for many years with no 
problems. I'm pretty sure that no particular task is required to open an 
existing file. If DFSMS is broken in some catastrophic way, you have a lot of 
other problems to occupy your attention.

SMS can help a lot for allocating new ZFS to a specific DASD pool and keeping 
out interlopers who shouldn't be there. Not to mention the advantages of EAV.

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If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems.   If 
applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones.  I use DFDSS 
to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance.   If they are mounted 
READ only, then the DFDSS job can be run anywhere.  If mounted RDWR, you need 
to either unmount, or expect DFDSS to temporarily quiesce the filesystem from 
updates while running.

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So I have a question.

Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to Non-SMS 
datasets?

What would be the process?  Repro out and back?  Is there a simpler way?

I know technically this works fine, but I don’t like my system datasets being 
SMS managed and the previous person here set this up.

Thanks

Ms Terri E Shaffer
Senior Systems Engineer,
z/OS Support:
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