So without getting into a philosophical discussion here, it is 100 times easier for cloning and manipulation of ZFS (SYSTEM ONLY) files, when nothing currently exists in SMS routines, besides some HLQ's. Yes I can set this up in SMS and build ACS routines and init volumes as SMS, ETC, as I am the storage admin, RACF, and sysprog, so everything is doable. For now, I am going to take the path of least resistance for now and just init my secondary RES volume as SMS and add to my storage group.
When I install z/OS 2.3, I will fix this and make it non-sms then. Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems Engineer, z/OS Support: ACIWorldwide – Telecommuter H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592) terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files This question has overtones (undertones?) reminiscent of avoiding PDSE. Just isn't necessary. Our HFS/ZFS files have been SMS managed for many years with no problems. I'm pretty sure that no particular task is required to open an existing file. If DFSMS is broken in some catastrophic way, you have a lot of other problems to occupy your attention. SMS can help a lot for allocating new ZFS to a specific DASD pool and keeping out interlopers who shouldn't be there. Not to mention the advantages of EAV. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Extended format system ZFS files If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance. If they are mounted READ only, then the DFDSS job can be run anywhere. If mounted RDWR, you need to either unmount, or expect DFDSS to temporarily quiesce the filesystem from updates while running. _________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Extended format system ZFS files **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** So I have a question. Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to Non-SMS datasets? What would be the process? Repro out and back? Is there a simpler way? I know technically this works fine, but I don’t like my system datasets being SMS managed and the previous person here set this up. Thanks Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems Engineer, z/OS Support: ACIWorldwide – Telecommuter H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592) terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com<mailto:terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ________________________________ [https://www.aciworldwide.com/-/media/aci-footer] <http://www.aciworldwide.com> This email message and any attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or non-public information. The information is intended solely for the designated recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this email, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this email. Any review, dissemination, use or reliance upon this information by unintended recipients is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the author personally. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN