I can't get Windows on 3480 cartridge?!?

That does it! We're converting to TRSDOS instead.

Charles


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued

And just exactly how do they expect to get Windows? Microsoft is basically 
subscriptions services noadaays.

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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Edward Gould
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:40 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued
> 
> > On Mar 26, 2018, at 2:23 PM, John Eells <ee...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:33:23 -0500, Edward Gould wrote:
> >>>> "IBM plans to discontinue delivery of z/OS platform products and
> service on magnetic tape on July 1, 2018.  ..."
> >>> Congratulations to IBM. This sounds the death nell for z/OS at this 
> >>> install.
> >>> What will you do instead?
> >
> > (I'm not sure why I can't see Ed's post, so I copied the above from
> > another.)
> >
> > First, we are still delivering these things on DVD and have no 
> > current plans
> to stop doing that.  So, if that was your concern, a connection to the 
> internet from z/OS is not required.
> >
> > In addition to that, you can take a laptop outside your firewall, 
> > download
> stuff*, bring the laptop back in, connect to your internal network, 
> and upload it to z/OS to be processed.  A connection from z/OS to the 
> internet is not required for this, either, and it's probably faster 
> than waiting for a DVD to arrive.  I don't have actual numbers handy, 
> but the data volume for most orders is probably less than you need to 
> download for a Netflix movie in SD.
> If you are ordering the gorilla in the room (z/OS itself), it's about 
> what you need for a few Netflix HD movies.
> >
> > Then, if you are willing to buy hardware as David Boyes outlined, 
> > you can
> perhaps do it that way.  I have no knowledge about these products, and 
> we have not tested that approach, so I do not know whether or not it 
> works.  If someone has tried it, I'd be (academically, I'll admit) 
> interesting in knowing about the outcome.
> >
> > * "Stuff" = Products, PTFs, HOLDDATA, etc.
> >
> > --
> John:
> Between the Auditor and the CEO they are of one voice. No outside data 
> (include DVD’s) are allowed. They have been quite vocal in this and 
> insists it be their way or noway.
> Ed
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