Generic profiles had become a standard here years before we cloned the first 
RACF data base. Went so far as to create a still existing usermod to the RACF 
ISPF app that inserts 'Generic' on the main data set profile panels. One would 
have to go out of the way to create a discrete profile. I saw a few over the 
years, but only a handful of dogies.

A discrete profile would be very problematic with a cloned data base. They are 
recognized only by a flag in the VTOC. With generics, cloning is not a major 
effort. BTW, as far as eventual cleanup of unnecessary profile, it doesn't 
really matter very much. What you need to do is make sure that a commonly named 
resource A.B.C has the appropriate access rules in both data bases. That 
matters.  

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 8:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: RACF on a Sysplex??

Hi Skip,

Any scars from not doing so?

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Saturday 19-May-2018 03:17
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: RACF on a Sysplex??

One sort of obvious point. Before cloning your RACF data base make sure that 
*all* data set profiles are generic. Convert any that are not.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: RACF on a Sysplex??

My client has a mixture of things, but nothing is ever shared with a sandbox 
LPAR - not even
via RRSF "one way".   It really doesn't seem dangerous to do it one way, but I 
still
prefer to isolate things in a sandbox as completely as possible.

One business unit with 2 large sysplexes has separate RACF databases, but RRSF 
keeps things in sync.  Both have sysplex communications enabled in the DSNT and 
CF structures.

Another business unit has one RACF database shared between 2 sysplexes.  MII is 
the integrity manager and SYSZRACF is excluded, so the DB is protected with 
RESERVEs.

Another business unit has a 2 system basic sysplex and is in GRS ring mode, 
RACF DB is shared between both.  I just checked and SYSZRACF is converted to a 
global ENQ.

Another business unit has a prod / devl LPAR (both monoplexes).  They share a 
RACF
DB.  Since there is no GRS ring, the DB is protected with RESERVE.   There is a 
sandbox
version of this business unit also, but it has its own RACF DB.

There are also 2 sandbox parallel sysplexes each with 2 LPARs that are "clones" 
of the first 2 environments I wrote about - one with GRS, the other with MII. 
Both those sysplexes have their own RACF DBs, have sysplex communications 
enabled in the DSNT and CF structures.

Regards,

Mark
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