ObNewbie That was before MVSCP.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? Ah yes, the SYSTEM GEN - MVSCP.... Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seymour J Metz" <sme...@gmu.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:54:31 AM Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? War stories, yes, but I worked on OS/360 and OS/2 SVS before there was an SMP, and that was far worse. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 10:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? I'm so glad I did not have to use/work with SMP, I've heard the war stories and I think the backup everyone philosophy came from the old SMP V4 days and at the site I worked at, SMP/E I was still taught the standard of backing up all SMP/E datasets, target and DLIBS prior to any apply, it has saved my A$$ a couple times Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Craig" <dlc....@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:08:45 AM Subject: Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? On 18May23:1247+0000, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > Not sure how long ago eons was, but I started in the > mid-80s on MVS/SP and at my first SMP/E (and I believe > only) class, I was taught the APPLY / run for a while / > ACCEPT usage - except for USERMODs or APARs that hadn't > had a published PTF yet. I learned to use SMP back on MVT (am I the only one still here that can truthfully make that statement?) and while it's been a while since I last used SMP/E, I do not recall ever encountering a no ACCEPT policy for any IBM MRM. But people aren't mentioning policy for archiving snapshots of target and DLIB volumes and restoring therefrom--much faster than reAPPLYing LOTS of maintenance. That also requires tracking the target/DLIB volume snapshot associations, which are not necessarily based upon the dates of the snapshots. -- <not cent from sell> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig______________________________________________ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
