We're sharing keys between dev and sandbox, not dev and prod.

Thanks for the info!

Frank
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Frank,
You did your job by entering same master keys. Now, different domain are
"compatible" - then can share CKDS/PKDS.
You wanted to share domain, which is impossible (and that's good IMHO).

Of course there another story behind,: should one share crypto between
prod and dev?
We just answered how it's possible, not is it recommended.

Regards

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland






W dniu 2018-09-28 o 20:34, Frank Swarbrick pisze:
> Let me explain a bit more what I was trying to ask.  We have 3 LPARs 
> (production, dev/test, sandbox) on the same CPC.  Sandbox up to this point 
> did not have master keys loaded.  We quickly needed to load some, so I 
> recommended we use the same keys as dev/test.  I had hoped that we could have 
> Sandbox use the same crypto domain as dev/test; thus the question.  I ended 
> up just loading the same keys, rather than attempting to "share" the same 
> domain.  But I still wondered if the latter could be done.  It sounds like 
> you are saying no.
>
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> W dniu 2018-09-28 o 12:54, Jousma, David pisze:
>> Yes, they can be shared.   Our PROD lpars are all on the same domain.
> IMHO no, domains cannot be shared.
> Maybe your prod LPARs reside on different CPC each?
>
> Some remarks:
> 1. Single LPAR can have more than one domain, but z/OS ICSF can use only
> one at a time. However you can change domain number in PARMLIB and
> recycle ICSF.
>
> 2. Domain number cannot be assigned to more than one active LPAR.
> Deactivated LPARs could share domain id.
>
> 3. In the old days it was possible to have i.e. 40 LPARs and number of
> domains was 16. In that case More crypto engines were needed, for
> example Crypto 1 and 3 were assigned to LPARs 01-0F, Crypto engines 2
> and 4 were assigned to LPARs 10-1F and remaining LPARs had no access to
> Crypto engines (CPACF is not affected). In that case LPAR 01 and LPAR 11
> may have Domain Id 2 assigned, but on separated Crypto engines.
>
> 4. It is impossible to have i.e. Domain 12 on Crypto1 and Domain 07 on
> Crypto2 at a time.
>
> 5. It is also possible to have the same master keys on different domains
> (and even different CPCs) - in that case, CKDS/PKDS can be shared/copied
> between that systems.
>
>
> --
> Radoslaw Skorupka
> Lodz, Poland
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