Gary,
That is correct, but I was asking about (before OA55437) whether when using
ICSF for /dev/random whether a card was used and if so whether it makes any
difference.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 6:09 PM Gary Freestone <maz...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> This was announced by IBM last August.
>
> “With the PTFs for APAR OA55437, customers on z/OS V2.2 and V2.3 can now
> generate true random numbers via /dev/random when running on the IBM z14™
> family of servers, without needing to set up the Integrated Cryptographic
> Service Facility (ICSF). This new support is significant for users of
> OpenSSH, who may now use functions such as sftp and ssh without needing to
> set up ICSF, especially when using the new function introduced last year in
> APAR OA54299 (also for z/OS V2.2 and V2.3) allowing OpenSSH to use the
> CPACF instructions, when present, directly for certain ciphers and MACs
>
> Regards, Gary
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 10:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: ICSF and z/OS 2.3
>
> ICSF is currently required if you want to use the Unix /dev/random and
> /dev/urandom devices.
> These might be required by Unix apps (or jobs/stcs that use z/OS Unix
> System services).
>
> For exampe:  IBM OpenSSH server will not work without ICSF and /dev/random
> available.
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:24 PM Greg Boyd <gregb...@mainframecrypto.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ICSF is only required if you want to use the ICSF APIs, so it depends on
> > what, if anything in your shop might be using the APIs.  System SSL (TLS)
> > will certainly leverage the APIs if you have Crypto Express cards
> available
> > and that might provide some CPU relief.  The Guardium Database Encryption
> > Tool requires it if you want to encrypt IMS segments or DB2 tables at the
> > row level.
> >
> > Pervasive is getting a lot of attention and if you're going that route, I
> > would highly recommend that ICSF be active everywhere.  You don't want
> one
> > system writing ciphertext to a file and another system thinking that the
> > file is cleartext.  IBM is also recommending that ICSF be 'always up'.
> > They have made a number of changes to the component so that it will come
> up
> > earlier in the IPL and it should be one of the last tasks running.
> >
> > Given the growth in crypto workload, I take 'always up' to also mean
> > 'running everywhere'.  There are simply more things that can leverage
> ICSF,
> > some optionally and some require it.
> >
> > I'm not sure why DFSMShsm would need ICSF active, unless they were using
> > the Encryption Facility for z/OS with the DFSMSdss feature.
> >
> > Greg Boyd
> > Mainframe Crypto
> > www.mainframecrypto.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:16:37 +0000, Mary Kay Tubello <
> mtube...@humana.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hello all,
> > >
> > >Does anyone know if z/os 2.3 requires ICSF to be installed on each LPAR?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Mary Kay
> > >
> > >Large Systems Engineering
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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