As Kees has already mentioned; if you want to add chargeback for tape - that is 
easy. I know that both the CA MICS product and the MXG product both have 
interfaces to CA 1 and CA TLMS to gather information on how much data has been 
stored on tape (and how long that data has resided on tape). And with both CA 1 
and CA TLMS we keep track (for Virtual Tape users) of both "how much data did 
the application write" and "how much cache was used" (basically, before and 
after compression). And it is more than just block-count times block-size like 
in the olden days. 

Sounds like you simply need to have your chargeback system start to interface 
to your tape management system.

Russell Witt
CA 1 Development

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Benik, John E
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Tape Mount Management

Thank you for all the feedback.  Even though we are all virtual tape, I am 
under the impression that not all the data residing on tape should be.  Yes 
it's virtual and therefore disk, but many of the JCL used today is old and 
since there is no chargeback for tape, users continue to write their data to 
tape.  I am looking into this to help determine where the data should reside.  
The best will probably be looking at smaller tapes and having those go to disk 
instead.  I'm thinking starting with 50 MB.  



John Benik | Optum
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 1:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Tape Mount Mangement

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:30:34 +0100, R.S. wrote:
>
>My other impression is it's simpler to change gazillion (usually less) 
>of JCL jobs to explicitly point datasets to DASD than using TMM.
>
Might a JCLLIB member that SETs a few JCL symbols facilitate this?
Reduce a gazillion to a handful?  Nowadays JCL symbols can even be resolved in 
SYSIN.

>Of course virtual tape reliefs many pains of tape, but keeping things 
>in old way is not good for the future.
> 
IBM sometimes seems to have the opposite impression.  "Compatibility".

-- gil

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