WTF? A z/OS PTF *can* include a patch, but it is normally a total replacement. 
And it most certainly is a vendor decision how to install upgrades.

That said, IBM normally provides ++ APAR as a temporary expedient, and then 
provides a PTF with the appropriate SUP keyword. An RSU will have the PTF.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: OpenSSH upgrade option

Paul Gilmartin wote:
" Would IBM do better to apply IBM patches to the newest distribution rather 
than trying to upgrade an outdated version with APARs?  There's yet no 
assurance that IBM's patching won't regress a needed security patch....
Is EBCDIC a culprit?"


This has nothing to do w/EBCDIC. This is a new standard from the IETF (or 
whomever).

Like any other software, OpenSSH was written to a certain spec. A new spec will 
require new code to support that spec.
Since OpenSSH is now a part of z/OS, obviously maintenance will be required.

As I said in my earlier post, IBM is (more or less) obligated to support the 
new standard. Whether this is done with a (PTF) or (FUNCTION SYSMOD) is 
irrelevant.
Patch (apply PTF) vs. Replace (apply new function) is  (IMO) *NEVER* a vendor 
decision.
Which update method produces the desired result with the least amount of effort?

It would not surprise me (I haven’t investigated) if IBM has supplied both 
methods.


To the OP:
It seems a PMR or call to your friendly IBM rep would provide the information 
needed.

HTH,


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: OpenSSH upgrade option

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 16:01:15 +0000, Mark Jacobs wrote:

>I don't believe so. Latest version shipped with z/OS 2.3 is 6.4p1. IBM does 
>issue APARs against it for any problems found that are applicable to OpenSSH 
>on zOS. These is/was a list of them in one of the IBM OpenSSH manuals at one 
>time.
>
It's reasonable that Security Team look first at the version number and reject 
immediately if it doesn't meet criteria.  They haven't resource to examine 
every APAR cover letter (and integrity APARs may not be public.)

Would IBM do better to apply IBM patches to the newest distribution rather than 
trying to upgrade an outdated version with APARs?  There's yet no assurance 
that IBM's patching won't regress a needed security patch.

Why must IBM patch?  Is EBCDIC a culprit?  I hate EBCDIC!


>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>On Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:44 AM, Paul Jodlowski wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to upgrade OpenSSH on z/OS v2.2?
>> Currently OpenSSH is at 6.4p1, I have been asked by our Network Security 
>> Team to upgrade to OpenSSH 7.4.

-- gil

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