Thanks. To quote you: "This will be tricky IMO, since people who understand linux and docker will have to talk with people who understand z/OS and zCX (and WLM, container pricing, etc, etc)."
With the possible exception of Container Pricing, I entirely agree... ... It's a general point about zCX that Architecture is going to be a lot of fun. Deciding what to put into which container. For me the headache will be working out what each zCX instance contains - given I don't believe SMF speaks to the question. I hope there's some kind of operator command or somesuch that will lay it all out. But **my** first step will be to find out the PGM= program name or else the Unix program name for a zCX instance, whichever is operative. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/ or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Kirk Wolf <k...@wolf-associates.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/08/2019 21:07 Subject: Re: Support for z/OS V2R4, zCX, and "What's new in z/OS OpenSSH" webinar Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Hi Martin, My view is that customers will add the Co:Z Target system toolkit (a linux package) to their existing Docker images where they need to integrate Docker apps with z/OS. So, the system architecture (how many containers per zCX instance, etc) is really driven by the customer. This will be tricky IMO, since people who understand linux and docker will have to talk with people who understand z/OS and zCX (and WLM, container pricing, etc, etc). I would be happy to send you offline a zip file that contains the use cases (Dockerfiles, JCL, instructions) that we tested. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dovetail.com&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=gFCyZueHfkWslHrIlIgpiyWVKAfLpYJ4x8L_AAiiMgg&s=WBaxuuCBrcFcY-Qi6ViGeHoPpddKDNCHGwN1752hz9Y&e= PS> We didn't change a single thing in Co:Z to get it to work with z/OS zCX Docker. We can install our binary s390x Co:Z linux package from z Linux. >From an application architecture point of view, it's just like connecting Co:Z Hybrid batch to Linux Docker anywhere. Here's a 10 minute video that demonstrates what z/OS Hybrid batch is: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_embed_WlZbN-5Fvs7us&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=gFCyZueHfkWslHrIlIgpiyWVKAfLpYJ4x8L_AAiiMgg&s=Li_yAyzRA56kUaEbucjjMCBScHYBhFxiWh1-WWwaffQ&e= On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:26 PM Martin Packer <martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com> wrote: > Very interesting, Kirk. > > I wonder how you would architect a solution with Co:Z z/OS Hybrid batch in > zCX. > > I'm interested in how many you'd put in one address space, how many > address spaces, etc. > > The answer will be "it depends" so let's just cut to the "on what and > how?" follow up question chase. :-) > > This is a specific form of the same question I'd ask for ANY zCX > implementation. > > Thanks, Martin > > Martin Packer > > zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM > > +44-7802-245-584 > > email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com > > Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker > > Blog: > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker > > Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/ > or > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__itunes.apple.com_gb_podcast_mainframe-2Dperformance-2Dtopics_id1127943573-3Fmt-3D2&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=gFCyZueHfkWslHrIlIgpiyWVKAfLpYJ4x8L_AAiiMgg&s=bJojx1ubXfQvN32s5wpo0mYRSEpk0gY9qMHGTThRmnw&e= > > > Youtube channel: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_channel_UCu-5F65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA&d=DwIFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=gFCyZueHfkWslHrIlIgpiyWVKAfLpYJ4x8L_AAiiMgg&s=ZudNvamTO4IUsbVVkx8d9s-ztUovZ2Qsa7gOR3ybySE&e= > > > > From: Kirk Wolf <k...@dovetail.com> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 20/08/2019 20:03 > Subject: Support for z/OS V2R4, zCX, and "What's new in z/OS > OpenSSH" webinar > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > z/OS containers have been discussed here, so I hope that this post isn't > considered out of bounds. > > z/OS V2R4, when generally available, will be supported by all currently > supported releases of Co:Z. In addition, we have tested and will be > supporting z/OS Container Extensions. Co:Z z/OS Hybrid batch works as > expected in z/OS Linux containers and provides very nice integration > between z/OS data sets with Docker apps. Please contact me for more > details. > > Webinar: What's new in z/OS V2R4 OpenSSH? > z/OS V2R4 will include a major refresh to OpenSSH, based on the open > source > 7.6p1 version. On September 18, 2PM EDT we will present a live webinar > based on our recent popular SHARE presentation. 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