I'm getting confused by this thread.  I thought I recalled you had said the PTF 
you were bypassing was for S16E?   All of those DEB Check PTF's are in support 
of the changes needed for OSPROTECT.  And yes, we ran into the S16E issue on 
certain application datasets, only in a blue moon.   Eventually, IBM got it all 
figured out, and the problem is fixed.   I do recall they said they saw the 
problem in VPS, where VPS was opening/closing an IMAGELIB many times.

But none of this had anything to do with USERKEY CSA.    That’s an entirely 
different animal, and needs to be rectified before going V2.4.

I suspect you won't have much luck backing these PTF's off because they reach 
out and touch a lot of different modules.   The only real option would be if 
you have a known complete backup of the entire SMPE environment *before* the 
application of any of these PTF's.

Incidentally, we do have UA95897 applied for over a year now, and have not run 
into the scenario that OA58037 describes.   Seems like a pretty small window of 
problem, and even then, it was on a task/job that was being cancelled to begin 
with.  I'd probably open ticket with IBM on that APAR, and ask an opinion 
(which they may not give).

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Well, I do run VPS/TCPIP
Key  Product Name
---  ------------ 
012  DRS        
001  VPS        
004  VPS/PCL    
002  VPS/TCPIP  

z/OS 2.1 at RSU1903 (RSU1908 included in the set that could come on with the 
error bypass. 
We don't have many printers, but they are all TCP/IP network attached. So far 
I've not experienced (or at least not noticed) any of the errors in the link.

Since I found the Health Check disappointing, I could consider backing the 
bypassed PTFs out. I haven't looked. Are the SMF fields with the USERCSA data 
also part of one or more of the PTFs in this chain? There were 27 that went on 
with the bypass and selecting UA94607. (And 31 others that had dependencies 
satisfied :) )

Only running them in the sandboxes for now.
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On 
> Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 9:22 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037
> 
> That's part of a pretty long comedy of errors that apply to (mostly) 
> LRS's VPSIP product.  If you are running VPSIP, like several of our 
> sites, then you are likely aware of the issues that this whole string of 
> aparas has caused.
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_debchk-2Ddeb-2Dlock-2Dnew-
> 2Dfunction-2Dlist-
> 2Dmaintenance&d=DwIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQ
> b-
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&m=RfHnql3CpaS3KFsgCx5LqRORoZTp
> 07SIADw0RnXZmcA&s=4Cib0hikGVj-
> d0uZAk1aIUAIlm51FKWEuYtMho4Ehww&e=
> 
> If you are not using VPSIP then it probably won't effect you either 
> way to bypass the hold.
> 
> Brian
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