> SYSMDUMPs can be written to SYSOUT, and then, for the ones you want
>to look at with IPCS, extracted to a sequential data set.  pool.  You can 
>use
>a spool file management program (for example,  SDSF or EJES) to do the 
>extraction. 

While that is true, I do not recommend doing that. Most z/OS installations have 
ISV products that read complete jobs from JES2 spool and archive them somewhere 
else. The products I know only look at the number of lines in the job for their 
decision to get it from spool. They totally disregard how *long* these lines 
are. A sysmdump in JES spool doesn't have all that many lines, but those lines 
are not 132 byte long. They are 4160 byte long.

We got badly bitten by a thoughtless sysmdump dd sysout=* in a (USS) 
application that kept abending with a sysmdump every time a new address space 
got started (and that was several per minute!) It lead to a 'spool shortage' in 
our archival product followed by a severe JES2 spool shortage. I had a hell of 
a time figuring out why the archival product was in a spool shortage and did 
not reject the extremely large jobs (byte-wise) in the first place.

As a consequence, I removed all sysmdump dd sysout=* cards in all STCs. I told 
the owners of those STCs that they would have to allocate sysmdump data sets 
for their STCs and figure out how to save the one they had gotten before STC 
restart overwrote it.

Admittedly the setup we had was dumb. The STC sysmdumps should never have gone 
to sysout=*, they should have gone to a class that won't get archived. I know 
that my current installation has a similarly dumb setup, this time for batch 
jobs. They all write those 3700 page sysudumps and in addition the ceedumps to 
sysout=* and have it archived for however long the jobs is required to be 
archived. Even with linesize 132 that is a lot of DASD and later tape space. 
Never mind that there is usually a TDUMP accompanying the ceedump. In my 
current installation I appear to be the only one who can read a SYSMDUMP using 
IPCS, and I had exactly one person ask me how I did it and if he can use IPCS, 
too. 

Regards, Barbara

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