This is the whole "bound to another address space" issue. Does it matter what sequence you take the address spaces down in? And I wonder if the same applies to Db2 and MQ. (I would guess not as the binding/attachment must be different.)
Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/ or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Barbara Nitz <nitz-...@gmx.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 04/05/2020 09:23 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: S0F9 and SOFD ABENDs and SVC dumps - oh my! Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:09:32 -0400, Peter Relson <rel...@us.ibm.com> wrote: ><snip> >z/OS FORCE did not work ></snip> > >Wanna bet? > >FORCE,ARM runs in the address space so would have been affected. >FORCE does not. Doesn't matter. With an IMS region, you cannot use cancel (z/OS: "non-cancelable, use force arm"). You cannot use force arm (z/OS: "cancel first, please"). And you cannot use force because IMS intercepts that and tells you to terminate the IMS region by de-registering it from IMS. Which doesn't work because it is already *unknown* (i.e. deregistered) in the control region, but the de-registering hasn't made it down the tcbs in that IMS message region. Sometimes the callrtm program worked after the 5th invocation, but sometimes it didn't work even after 10 invocations. (With the dumps to verify it didn't work in between invocations.) IMS message regions are BAD, IMHO. Regards, Barbara ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
