I totally agree!

I don't like HTML very much but I do like markdown which is why I love modern static website builders like hugo https://gohugo.io/.

On 2020-05-08 10:30 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
I've been making help-style web pages since about 2000, when my 5-year old daughter pushed me to learn a bit about html.  A small group of us started a web server running on MVS at work, creating MVS doc web pages with things like JCL examples, etc. that we as sysprogs could point users to rather than explain the same information again and again.

I always thought web pages were best for doc for various reasons such as: there is only one copy, they are read-only to the users, they can link to other things, and importantly, people can bookmark an index or a detail page as needed.

I got into various arguments with managers over the years about not being consistent with the rest of the company in either platform or style, and even chastised for having some "fun" web pages.  In most cases ignored their orders (i.e. "I'll do it, I'm working on it") to move everything to company standards and servers.

I'm not sure if the developer.ibm.com issue is anything at all like I went through, but it just riles me up when I hear about perfectly good web sites being cleaned up, moved, removed, etc. possibly to satisfy a manager who didn't like the look and feel or maybe the site organization (which was all working fine before they looked).

So since I'm riled now and it's a beautiful sunset in California, I'm going to walk the dog and never speak of this again :)

On 5/7/2020 7:02 PM, Cheryl Watson Walker wrote:
Hi all,


We'll I'm a little embarrassed. I was just told offline about a link that Lionel Dyck posted here last October that described the coming of the calamity that just occurred - https://developer.ibm.com/dw-connections-sunset-faq/. (As a side note – the creators of that FAQ weren’t even kind enough to create hot links for all of the other portals. Web pages and hot links aren’t all that difficult people!) The FAQ said that owners of content on DeveloperWorks could move their content to other locations by the end of March. This is assuming that they were still employed by IBM and had the time to move the content. Of course, IBM could not provide them with the original content.


We had posted almost 100 links in our Tuning Letter to useful material on DeveloperWorks and now none of them work. It will take time, but I hope to go through all of our links and reach out to the authors to find where they are now posting items.


So I went to the new website - https://www.ibm.com/community/, signed up, and started looking at it. With the optional portals listed in the FAQ and this new community website, it just seems like IBM wants to remove as much technical information as possible and replace it with marketing. If anyone knows how to search the new community website, please let me know. If I’m not ready to buy a product, the community is not doing anything for me.


P.S. – Aled – thanks for your post. I have always had the highest respect for Timothy and Mark, and I really appreciate how much they support the customers.


Still a little bitter about the deletions…

Cheryl


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Hi all,


Remember when IBM went through and deleted from their websites what they considered "old" manuals and documentation? Well, they just did it again! They've removed all the DeveloperWorks articles that have provided such excellent information since its creation. And these aren't just OLD articles. Even a link from three months ago is gone. All references to DeveloperWorks are now directed to a nothing site. The DeveloperWorks website contained amazing articles from some of the top developers in their fields, many of whom are no longer still working at IBM. We understand that IBM "furloughed" them, but they don't have to furlough their ideas.


I'm pleading with all of you who work for a large IBM customer to ask your management to tell IBM to stop this idiotic practice. There is NO reason to delete valuable information.


If this is due to marketing wanting a new image, then they have no idea what image they're creating.


Please do this for all of us!


All my best,


Cheryl Watson

Watson & Walker, Inc.




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