And especially with CMS, testing old stuff on new CMS on old CP usually 
presents no problems. We did have to fall back due to a problem in OEM CP 
modifications, so we are running 4.4.0 with nearly 90 users on CMS 22. We are 
not using VMSYS and have had no problem with the filepool servers that we are 
running on CMS 22. Are you sure that your VMSYS had the correct 193 disk when 
it failed? As long as that disk is correct for the release of CMS, running CMS 
22 on z/VM 4.4.0 appears to work as it should. Mixing a back level 193 disk 
with a newer CMS does not work.

Regards,
Richard Schuh

 -----Original Message-----
From:   The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of 
Alan Altmark
Sent:   Monday, May 08, 2006 7:09 AM
To:     IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject:        Re: CMS Levels

On Monday, 05/08/2006 at 09:05 AST, "Stracka, James (GTI)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had a problem in the past when running an SFS SVM at a higher CMS
> level than CP.  Specifically the VMSYS: SVM took an abend.  We now
> insure that CP is always higher than or equal to both CMS and GCS.

Generally the order to use is:
- CP first
- then CMS (with LE)
- then TCP/IP (stack, apps, SSL)
- GCS whenever

>From time to time there may be specific exceptions that need tigher 
bindings that you usually (!) hear about in advance, but this generally 
works.  If you wander too far afield from this order, you risk getting 
yourself into an unsupportable configuration.

We don't test new-on-top-of-old, but typically test old-on-new as that 
reflects the realities of our development and incremental "function test" 
process.  The full-blown "system test", however, is primarily a new-on-new 
environment since it proceeds according to the documented procedures for 
installing a z/VM system.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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