And if you want to hear an angry ex-wife, goggle
on ‘twink mp3’. See also http://www.theregister.com/2006/09/13/phone_diatribe/.
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All shall become clear (depending on
who/what else you might be snuggling with at the same time).
Woah,
this could start a major OT.
(Must
. . . resist . . . comments . . . about . . . . ex-wife . . .
.)
Who,
me? No, I'm not bitter.
8-)
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When attempting to perform fancy feats of magic with the CMS search order,
perhaps it might help to snuggle up to the "CMS Command Search Order"
topic in Chapter 5 of the "CMS User's Guide" (page 172 of
SC24-6079-00). All shall become clear (depending on who/what else you
might be snuggling with at the same time). :-)
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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We have a QA process where programs to be tested are put on mdisk_a Only
those programs being
tested are on this mdisk. However, the program being tested may call
other programs not on mdisk_a
so, I (we) use the extension technique to also have access to the production
mdisks (i.e, modules, texts, etc).
There will be duplicate module names. The test module on mdisk_a, the
production module on mdisk_b.
I (we) need to be sure we have access to all modules/texts for testing. This
isn't the only technique (extensions)
we use; it just depends on the situation. For testing purposes, we want
to read mdisk_a first before mdisk_b
Thanks for the help.
Steve G.
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1. Search the primary, then the extension for execution of an exec or module.
2. I believe state will find the first module and say I found one.
To me having a disk extension directly behind the primary doesn't do much of
anything except assure the extension is in read only mode. (Except in the case
of COPY and TAPE dump as previously noted). The best example I can think of is
190/19E. If the search makes it all the way through to the S disk and still
doesn't find what it is looking for it goes to Y next. Then back to T, U, V, W
and X if any of those are accessed.
Extensions are handy for changing the search order when other disks are already
in a certain place. Or when forcing a read only situation like doing ACC 191
A/A.
IMO
Bob
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Thanks. ok, what happens in the following two cases:
1) mdisks are accessed as previously mentioned. mdisk1 is A mdisk2
is B/A
I have the same program (module) on both A and B I
want to run the module.
From which disk will the module
be used?
2) I use the STATE/STATEW/ESTATE/ESTATEW. Same scenario as 1 above
Where will the program be found first and will the STATE
command acknowledge/report
that I have the file on two mdisks?
Steve G.
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Be aware that not all commands search the search order in the same way. For
example, if you have disks accessed as A and A/H, you will see that LISTFILE
does not include the H disk when you
LIST * * A; however, in the commands TAPE DUMP * * A or COPYFILE * * A = = X,
the files from the H disk will be included.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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> H will be completely searched before going to I, which is the
> normal course of action. The I/H in this case forces R/o.
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> From: Steve Gentry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Hello. I've issued a Q DISK command and listed below is
> part of the
> > results:
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> > DSK4B0 4B0 H R/O 1625 3390 4096
> > DSK121 121 I/H R/O 900 3390 4096
> >
> > I issued a VMLINK command (could be ACCESS as well) to
> make the I disk an
> > extension of the H disk. What will the search order be?
> Will all of H
> > be searched first
> > and if file not found start searching the I disk or is the
> H and I disk
> > munged together
> > and searched concurrently?
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
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> Obsolescence is Just a Lack of Imagination
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