I would beg to differ w/ this you can recover any component of a backed up running VSE system how many system crashes are planned ? w/ op system down ? what good is a DR plan if you can only restore from a planned outage ? VSE utilities should also be used as fallback , such as power off-loads, fcopy etc.
Doug Shupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .net> To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject ARK.EDU> Re: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE 01/01/2007 10:25 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU> Daniel, You can get a valid/usable backup the z/VSE guest dasd with DDR -ONLY IF- the z/VSE guest is shutdown while performing the backup. You can use z/OS DFDSS to backup the z/VM and z/VSE dasd but (IMHO) it is not a wise solution because of the restore considerations. With enough practice you could make it work. Problem is the z/VSE guest would never work correctly unless it were shutdown during the backup. You can backup the running z/VM system with DDR (minus the page and spool volumes - format the page and spool volumes, cold start the spool after recovery). You would have to re-save CMS and other DCSS or use SPXTAPE to save the information in the spool. Since you have a z/VM system, this would be a good time to try using z/VM under z/VM to validate your recovery process. If you forgot something just scrape the 2nd level system and start over. (kind of like using Changeman to maintain Changeman). Would be glad to discuss with you offline. Best Regards, Doug Shupe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: Backup of z/VM and z/VSE I have been given an assignment to backup our z/VM and z/VSE systems. We also run z/OS. I know about DDR. Can I backup/restore both z/VM and = z/VSE using DDR ? Can z/OS backup/restore z/VM ?