Yes, I'm having a real hard time with the virtual world.... but I'm 
progressing...  Thanks for all the help from everyone.

Anne D. Crabtree
System Programmer
WV Dept of Administration - OT
304-558-5914 ext 8885
Fax 304-558-1351

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 12:27 PM >>>
The simple answer is that, once your virtual machine is set up, everything
you¹re interested in are the virtual components; You no longer need to deal
with the ³real² devices.

In your virtual machine, all you get to see is the 12FF disk; the real DASD
it resides on doesn¹t exist in your virtual world. The same can be said for
your virtual NIC; you don¹t care what the real OSA card is at that point.
Your terminal? It¹s whatever the virtual machine¹s console address was
defined as. It doesn¹t matter what real terminal you¹re sitting at.

For DASD, you¹re going to label your minidisk, so you¹d use whatever label
you initialized with. It doesn¹t matter what the label of the real DASD is,
and you can use it, or some other label, based on your current needs.

You¹ve got to think ³virtually².
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> From: Fran Hensler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> You could restore yoour original install tapes to you 2nd level
> machine and then apply maintenance.
> 
> /Fran
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:32:58 -0500 Anne Crabtree said:
>> That's probably what I want to do eventually.  I'm trying to learn how
>> to do this so I can test maintenance somewhere before putting it on
>> production (which is my only option at the moment).
>> 
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 8:11 AM >>>
>> You could put 510W01 in your 2nd level directory but it would be a
>> minidisk on the real 510W01 volume.
>> 
>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:06:24 -0500 Anne Crabtree said:
>>> I was confused as to whether I should put VM2CKP in the DIRECTORY
>> stmt
>>> as opposed to 510W01.  I'm just not sure I set everything up right.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 7:49 AM >>>
>>> Anne -
>>> 
>>> You would use the 12FF disk for your 2nd level directory.
>>> 
>>> In fact you could not write the directory to 510W01 even if you
>>> wanted to.  510W01 is not defined in your 2nd level machine.
>>> 
>>> /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 43
>>> years
>>>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]         +1.724.738.2153
>>>        "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock"
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:36:28 -0500 Anne Crabtree said:
>>>> I'm trying to set up a second level vm system following directions
>> in
>>>> "Z/VM Running Guest Operating Systems"  Chapters 6 and 7.  Here's my
>>>> directory entry on first level:
>>>> 
>>>> USER VMTEST VMTEST 64M 128M BG
>>>>  MACHINE ESA 2
>>>>  OPTION TODENABLE
>>>>  ACCOUNT 1 VMTEST
>>>>  IPL CMS
>>>>  SPECIAL 400 3270
>>>>  CONSOLE 009 3215 T
>>>>  SPOOL 00C 2540 READER *
>>>>  SPOOL 00D 2540 PUNCH  A
>>>>  SPOOL 00E 1403 A
>>>>  LINK MAINT 0190 0190 RR
>>>>  LINK MAINT 019D 019D RR
>>>>  LINK MAINT 019E 019E RR
>>>>  MDISK  191 3390 217 0070 510W01 MR
>>>>  MDISK 1000 3390 287 0035 510W01 MR
>>>>  MDISK 12FF 3390 322 0070 510W01 MR
>>>> 
>>>> I'm confused when I logon as VMTEST and create the USER DIRECT.
>>>> In DIRECTORY stmt, should it be:
>>>> DIRECTORY 12FF 3390 VM2CKP   or do I have to use 510W01 since that's
>>>> the real volid where 12FF is?  User OPERATOR looks like this:
>>>> USER OPERATOR AB12CD 32M 64M ABCDEFG
>>>>  IPL 190 PARM AUTOCR
>>>>  MACHINE ESA 4
>>>>  ACCOUNT DEPT0001 BIN001
>>>>  SPOOL    00C RDR  A
>>>>  SPOOL    00D PUN  A
>>>>  SPOOL    00E 4248 A
>>>>  CONSOLE  01F 3270 T
>>>>  * R/W disks
>>>>  MDISK  191 3390  000  END VMT191 WR ALL
>>>>  MDISK 1000 3390  000  END IPLDSK WR ALL
>>>>  MDISK 12FF 3390  000  END VM2CKP WR ALL
>>>>  * R/O disks
>>>>  MDISK  190 3390  000  END MNT190 RR ALL
>>>>  MDISK  19D 3390  000  END MNT19D RR ALL
>>>>  MDISK  19E 3390  000  END MNT19E RR ALL
>>>> 
>>>> In SYSTEM CONFIG, I have:
>>>> Checkpoint Volid VM2CKP From Cylinder 1 for 2,
>>>> Warmstart  Volid VM2CKP From Cylinder 3 for 2
>>>> CP_Owned Slot 1 VM2CKP
>>>> 
>>>> but since VM2CKP is a label not an actual volume, I'm not sure if I
>>> did
>>>> it right.
>>>> 
>>>> I was trying to send this question to my buddy Phil at Velocity, but
>>> it
>>>> keeps coming back as undeliverable so I thought someone else could
>>>> probably clear this up for me.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anne D. Crabtree
>>>> System Programmer
>>>> WV Dept of Administration - OT
>>>> 304-558-5914 ext 8885
>>>> Fax 304-558-1351

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