I personally think that this is more a comment on the government tendering
systems generally in use, which despite all protests to the contrary, use
the cheapest rather than the best solution.

Dave

Still smarting after having a week of downtime on our VM System due to an
HMC fault.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler
> Sent: 02 May 2008 14:44
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: whitehouse email
> 
> you might find this news article interesting
> 
> Whitehouse Emails Were Lost Due to "Upgrade"
> http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/04/30/1359209.shtml
> 
> and
> 
> The case of the missing e-mail
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/bush-lost-e-mails.ars
> 
> and for some more whitehouse email from 25yrs or so ago
> (that weren't lost)
> http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/18/archive/
> 
> from nearly the start in the 70s, I had been quite rabid about backups
> and backups of backups and backups of backups of the backups.  There
> has been speculation that orientation carried over to PROFS
> deployments. In any case, that supposedly was major factor in the
> above reference.
> 
> somebody told me in the early 90s that similar email systems had been
> deployed at numerous gov. agencies.
> 
> during the period I was getting to play disk engineer
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk
> and working on system/r (original relational/sql implementation):
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr
> and doing an internal "sjr/vm" distribution ... a recent refs:
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26 Assembler question
> with this old email:
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800501
> 
> I had also implemented what I called CMSBACK ... some old email refs
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback
> and
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#email791025
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email801211
> 
> which was deployed internally at several internal locations
> ... including the internal (vm370-based) HONE systems that provided
> world-wide sales & marketing support
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hone
> 
> misc. past posts mentioning backup and/or archive
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#backup
> 
> CMSBACK went thru several internal releases and then a morph for a
> customer release under the product name workstation datasave
> facility. The product name then morphed into ADSM ... and then the
> name morphed again and is currently sold as TSM (tivoli storage
> manager).
> 
> current Tivoli storage manager reference:
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/storage-mgr/
> 
> reference to virtual machine use in the gov. even much earlier:
> http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.cfm
> 
> as an undergraduate in the 60s, i did a lot of system enhancements
> that were picked up and shipped in the product. i even got requests
> from ibm for some specific changes.
> 
> many years later ... having learned about some of the customers,
> i interpreted some of the change requests as of a security nature
> and possibly have originated from some such gov. agency.

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