> Sorry if these question seem stupid but there are days working with VM 
that I feel just that.

Nope, the question is not by any means "stupid".  You have reached what is 
IMHO, the very most difficult part of z/VM: migration of an existing 
system to a new release.

In general, the process is very tedious and open to simple, but disastrous 
mistakes.  You want to use the newly loaded and maintained MDISKs, SFS 
directories, and SDF's (System Data Files) that IBM supplied on the new 
system.  But you also want to maintain your customized configuration files 
(e.g. SYSTEM CONFIG, TCPIP DATA, and myriad others), and old SPOOL files. 

You also want to use, untouched, other non-IBM directory entries such as 
those for CMS users, local service machines (be they CMS-based or 
Linux-based), and non-IBM ISV products.   ESM's (External Security 
Managers) make that process a bit more difficult than using a flat "USERID 
DIRECT" file.  With a flat "USER DIRECT" file you can copy the newly 
updated IBM entries into a new "MERGED DIRECT" file, then copy the non-IBM 
entries to the end of that "MERGED DIRECT" file, validate everything ... 
go from there, eventually renaming MERGED DIRECT to USER DIRECT once 
everything works.  But the "go from there" part is what experienced z/VM 
sysprogs have spent decades learning on their own, and from members of 
this list (and from VMSHARE before that).

Carefully study the "z/VM Migration Guide".  It has many of the processes 
required.  But it does not cover 100% of the pain.

We're starting a process of leaving all of IBM's distributed MDISKs on one 
3390-9 sysres DASD.  When we need to change anything (e.g. those TCPIP 
files on the TCPMAINT 198 disk) on one of those MDISKs after the install, 
we'll change that virtual address to begin with D (e.g. from 2C2 to D2C2 
as a sign that it is the "Distributed" MDISK) and DDR it to a new MDISK on 
a local sysres at the original MDISK address (e.g. 2C2).  When preparing 
the next migration, any MDISKs on the local sysres will be carefully 
examined for changed files.  It should make identifying those changed 
files a lot easier next time.

We're about to migrate one system to a fully maintained z/VM 5.4.0 next 
week.  The best advice I can give you is to have hardcopy USER DIRECT 
files from both systems, and keep the syntax of CP DEFINE MDISK handy.

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.





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I have install 5.4 and IPL?d it as a second level system and everything 
looks good.
 
Now what? I?ve looked for a book or documentation for migrating it to 
replace the first level machine but I am coming up empty.
 
Can someone point me to a migration guide or procedure so that I don?t do 
something stupid and wipe out profiles and such.
 
Do I just copy the res volume up to the alt volume? Are there profiles 
that I have to copy over? 
 
Sorry if these question seem stupid but there are days working with VM 
that I feel just that.
 
 
Novice is as novice does, which can be dangerous.

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