Yes, #2 is where I'm coming from (my last experience with VM service).
So, yes this is SLICK!
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649
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Subject: Re: RSU0902 problem with SERVICE
Ah... that's a LOT clearer, thanks.
1) Did you run PUT2PROD before IPLing? Running SERVICE only gets the
files to the BUILD disks, not onto the PROD disks.
2) In the good old days, before SERVICE and PUT2PROD, VM sysprogs had to
manually execute myriad VMSES/E commands, and manually check the results
of each before going on to the next step. There were LOTS of steps, and
it required doing them for each individual VM component (CP, CMS, GCS,
etc.) - again checking the results of every command for every component.
An experienced VM sysprog could apply an RSU with service to every
component in a couple days. But it was very, VERY easy to miss an error
message - continuing with the steps (many,MANY steps and it was VERY
easy
to miss one of those, too!) until after the IPL, one or more components
failed due to the missed error message(s).
Last fall when in the z/BM 540 ESP, and sitting in the back of a CAVMEN
session, I received an RSU, ran SERVICE and PUT2PROD, and IPLed the 2nd
level build system in about 30 minutes -- without looking up any
commands.
Before SERVICE and PUT2PROD that would have at least a while taken more
or more tedious days, and would not have been possible without carefully
following the manuals with their gazillions (OK, that's a slight
exaggeration) of manually entered commands and manually checked results.
No problem (now), be happy! Count your blessings; SERVICE and PUT2PROD
are certainly two of them!
VMSES/E usurping the console log *IS* irritating, but it does not delete
it. It just places it in the appropriate $MSGLOG along with the other
related messages so there is only ONE place to look for each VMSES/E
process. No hunting the $MSGLOG for CMS messages and (if you can find
the
right one) the SPOOLed console log for other related messages.
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
"Frank M. Ramaekers" <framaek...@ailife.com>
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Like I said originally, I did the SERVICE with the RSU0902 yesterday,
then this morning I did a 'SERVICE CP STATUS'. Now VMFVIEW SERVICE
shows only:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
===> VMFVIEW - Message Log Browse of $VMFSRV $MSGLOG A1 <===
You are viewing ALL messages from the LAST run.
Number of messages shown = 6 <===> Number of messages not shown = 0
************************************************************************
**** SERVICE USERID: MAINT ****
************************************************************************
**** Date: 09/03/09 Time: 07:25:28 ****
************************************************************************
ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE CP STATUS
ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started
ST:VMFSRV1225I CP (5VMCPR40%CP) status:
ST:VMFSRV1225I Service Level RSU-0902
ST:VMFSRV1225I Production Level RSU-0801
ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully
* * * End of File * * *
:
:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
IMHO, I don't see why this was logged.
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76710
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> but the "VMFVIEW /n" only the STATUS process.
Without "eyes on" your terminal, that post is rather terse. What do you
mean by "only STATUS process"?
Did you try pressing the PF2 ("All") key, and then scroll (PF7 and PF8)
up
and down the results?
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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"Frank M. Ramaekers" <framaek...@ailife.com>
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Cool, I can see it in there, but the "VMFVIEW /n" only the STATUS
process. :(
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76710
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:06 AM
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For now, enter: FILELIST * $MSGLOG *
Look through the results with BROWSE, XEDIT (but do NOT change
anything!),
or VMFVIEW (from the FILELIST prefix area, enter: VMFVIEW /n).
From now on, after VMSES/E commands complete, always enter: FILELIST * *
*
(TODAY
(the "TODAY" option is one of my favorite, often overlooked commands)
then look through the recently updated files. It will give you a better
idea of what files VMSES/E just updated, and a little better feel for
what
all those mysterious commands do in general.
When using VMFVIEW, carefully examine all the possible PFkeys, they add
a
lot of value.
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
"Frank M. Ramaekers" <framaek...@ailife.com>
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Guess I messed up. I ran the SERVICE against the RSU0902 and it ran to
completion (with return code 4). I closed to console to preserve the
entire session (especially since the set TERM MORE 0 0). This was
yesterday.
Today, I came in and started reviewing the manuals and found this nifty
command SERVICE compid STATUS. So, I issued that. Next, I went back to
review the SERVICE from the day before, but unfortunately the VMFVIEW
SERVICE only showed the results from the SERVICE/STATUS command.
Then I thought, at least I have my CONSOLE log. Unfortunately that was
not to be found. Does SERVICE turn this off?
So, I have no way to review what transpired yesterday (well, that I know
of). I know there were some warning messages that I wanted to
investigate.
Thoughts? Ideas?
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76710
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