Or call diag 8, 'MSG svcid msgtext' (which is probably the lightest of the 
methods).

I would have thought that the definition of receiving would have been expanded 
to include and machine with is console spooled by now.

If I were expecting an acknowledgement from the other end, I would (a) probably 
have chosen another communication path, and (b) in the absence of a reply, 
assume that the response was not the go ahead. On the other hand, if assembling 
all of the HCP and DMK modules were the task, that is what batch systems are 
for. It doesn't hurt to use up spare cpu cycles for doing heavy lifting so long 
as the machine is not favored over others who are engaged in interactive usage. 
The spare cycles go to waste unless there is a sponge to soak them up.

Regards,
Richard Schuh





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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Mike Walter
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:57 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Message Handling


I can only surmise that the message:
         userid  not receiving; disconnected
was designed in the good "olden days" (we both remember those!) when usually 
the only ones logged onto VM were real people, not service machines.

If you were expecting an acknowledgement from the person on the other end along 
the lines of:
"Sure, go ahead and re-assemble all of the DMK modules during the day while the 
interactive usage is high, it's OK with me",
then you'd want to know that they were not connected, recalling that Mom and 
Dad rules do not apply at work, thus keeping you from shooting your career in 
the foot.  (Anyone with kids knows that they think that "Mom and Dad rules" are 
that "silence is acceptance")   ;-)

Nowadays, most of the "users" are often service machines.  However... we can 
easily code around that, e.g.:
EXECIO 0 CP  (STRING MSG targetid Does anyone know what time it is?
PIPE CP MSG targetid Does anyone really care?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.


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With this setup:


 *   Disconnected service machine
 *   MSG ON
 *   Console spooled


When a user sends a msg to that machine, the result is:


 *   The message is displayed in the spooled console log.
 *   The sender gets the message "HCPMFS057I svmid not receiving; disconnected"


Why does the sender get the message? Clearly, the message was received. That 
is, it was received unless you have some interesting definition of "received".

Regards,
Richard Schuh




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