Thanks for the response..
My reply inline...

On 26 May 2017 at 17:32, Thomas Gelf <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Director/PuppetDB module author here - so I might be biased ;-)
>
> Am 26.05.2017 um 13:19 schrieb Jayapandian Ponraj:
>
>> * setup 1: I see that the import of all nodes from puppetdb (1K+) in our
>> setup takes a huge amount of time and works only when php is given
>> insane amount of memory(1G+). Is this normal ? has anyone tried it?
>>
>
> 1000 nodes isn't much, but it is expensive to query the PuppetDB for all
> those details. It imports all facts and all assigned classes. One of
> those used to be very slow, I don't remember which one. Eventually the
> API query might be improved to benefit from new features in newer
> PuppetDB versions - not sure about this.
>
> I used to keep the "Nodes" import running long time ago for a while
> against a production environment. As far as I remember, Import took
> nearly 15 minutes all the times, and most time was spent on waiting for
> PuppetDB.
>
> This doesn't hurt Director at all as it usually runs as a background Job
> and not through the web frontend. We didn't experience such with a DB
> sized similar than your's, but of course this might put some burden on
> your PuppetDB. So I would suggest to not use the "Nodes" type of import,
> that's more kind of a playground.


I do understand that the initial loading can be huge but i have seen
director get unresponsive
even after the inital load, like when defining sync properties.

I would like to have atleast the basic hostalive check across all boxes. In
order to achieve this
do we have a way to just import nodes without facts and classes.

In a way the feature am asking for is filtering at source, which I guess is
not available for puppetdb.




>
>
> * setup 2: I tried collecting the exported Host objects from puppetdb
>> via director. In this case the import and sync is smooth but am unable
>> to FILTER. Is there any documentation listing out the keys available to
>> filter on? probably a few examples can help to get started
>>
>
> That's the way to go, I'm also doing so. A customer I work with from
> time to time is running it that way, exporting 2,5k hosts with quite
> some properties and custom vars (mostly from facts) and additionally
> exporting 10-20k single services the same way. Other 60k servives are
> then generated via Apply Rules.
>
> I do not suggest to filter at Sync time, that's a leftover for
> compatibility reasons from very old Director versions. Sure, it works -
> and the setup mentioned above is doing so. Just, some minor things might
> not work as you expect. Like tweaking the filter to get rid of some
> hosts would have no influence on the "purge" mechanism.


Can you give some examples of what works, like which fields can be used for
filters in a typical icinga::object::host object.
A simple example will be greatly helpfull.
I have tried various filters using "name", "display_name", "title" etc.

>


> Instead, having filters at the source is the way to go. This is easy for
> Import Sources like SQL/LDAP and similar, for PuppetDB this hasn't been
> implemented at the time being, as the initial thought was that in a
> perfect world it's Puppet that should filter objects by deciding whether
> to export them or not. So, to stop monitoring a host or a service, stop
> exporting it to PuppetDB and it would vanish.
>

In our setup we have multiple icinga masters and export host objects with
various puppet tags
https://docs.puppet.com/puppet/4.10/lang_tags.html

We would like to collect host objects based on the tags..
Thats how our setup is right now hence moving to director is an issue
without filters..

>
> Our world isn't perfect, and people often show up with the desire to
> tweak things in Director, as a change in Puppet might take quite some
> time - depending on your environment. This would be worth a dedicated
> feature request, when creating such please also add some concrete
> examples of what you want to achieve and how. That would help to get a
> better picture of how your very own perfect world would look like ;-)
>
> * I see that the preview when using puppetdb import ain't that great. Is
>> there any improvement planned in this regard?
>>
>
> Not yet. It should however be more or less usable when working with
> exported resources and a defined set of properties.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> NB: In case you're concerned about memory usage, please consider moving
> to PHP 7.x. The difference to 5.x when it comes to memory and
> performance is impressive.
>
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