Kalau saya membaca : Eric Schmidt pernah mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg menyediakan subsidi) Yang saya tangkap itu sekedar harapan dari Google, dan bukan berupa janji. Kalau sampai penulis kecewa, yang bloon ya dia sendiri karena nggak ada janji disitu.
Yang saya lebih nggak ngerti hubungannya antara kekecewaan akan HP gratis dan ke-"open"-an Android dimana ya? Untuk soal terminology open dari Android, apakah memang ada masalah? Saya sendiri melihat kalau semua orang bisa dan boleh saja bikin handset Android, bikin ROM Android, bikin aplikasi Android dan semua itu dipersilahkan oleh Google. Dari situ rasanya sudah open banget deh. Apa masih ada kurangnya yah? salam -iggy On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 <leo5...@se-ven.net> wrote: > ** > Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan > author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android > ternyata justru tidak ditepati. > > Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah > mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg > menyediakan subsidi) > Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan > operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga > handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah > Nexus One dgn harga $579) > > Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada > awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator > Verizon (yg menentang) > > Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar > pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa > diperdebatkan > > Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi "open" > Android sebagai platform > > To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life > ------------------------------ > *From: * Amer <moamer.khad...@gmail.com> > *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com > *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 > *To: *<id-android@googlegroups.com> > *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android > > blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. > jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open > flatform itu gimana om? > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 <leo5...@se-ven.net>wrote: > >> ** >> Google translate aja bro >> Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai >> "open" platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google >> dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas >> Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu >> perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung >> To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of life >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Andika Ikhsan <ikhsan.and...@gmail.com> >> *Sender: * id-android@googlegroups.com >> *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 >> *To: *<id-android@googlegroups.com> >> *ReplyTo: * id-android@googlegroups.com >> *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android >> >> tadi liat twitter ada TT "Hate Android" >> ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. >> http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android >> jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android yg >> saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 yg >> disebut di artikel ini? >> >> >> *HATE ANDROID* >> >> Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked >> most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume >> it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative >> take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” >> or worse. >> >> I should probably explain. >> >> Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I don’t >> hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved it. What >> I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what Google has >> done with Android. >> >> Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United >> States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the >> top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and >> the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The >> carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. >> >> Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took the >> stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was released. >> While some laughed it off <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo>at the >> time, the mobile landscape completely changed. >> >> Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a common >> enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s board of >> directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it was >> called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have >> launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And >> if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it >> would have taken longer. >> >> A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of >> the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset >> Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been >> the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A >> beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the >> software was actually ready to go. >> >> The initial Android >> prototypes<http://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewild>looked >> a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But >> the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross >> between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create >> while still a co-founder at >> Danger<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29>) >> and the iPhone OS. >> >> In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about >> this<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504>and >> the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, >> etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that >> it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t pay >> me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. >> >> Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. The >> market was saying it. >> >> Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players >> involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, >> the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. >> So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. >> carrier, and struck a >> deal<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug> >> . >> >> Remember, Apple still had an agreement with AT&T for exclusive iPhone >> rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But >> Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal >> with the devil was struck. >> >> Let’s back up for a second. >> >> Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the >> mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt >> told<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/>Reuters in late 2006. He >> envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have >> to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) >> would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year >> carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. >> >> In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But >> remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for Google >> in 2005, Schmidt knew what was coming down the pipe. He absolutely intended >> to disrupt the mobile market. >> >> But again, the initial releases of Android simply didn’t have the >> traction needed to come close to fulfilling Schmidt’s (and Google’s) dream. >> So deals with the carriers had to be made. >> >> Still, Google hung on to the hope of a free phone. That phone was called >> the Nexus One. >> >> At an event in January of 2010, Google unveiled their plan for Nexus One >> — the first real “Google Phone” as it were. While they were cautious and >> cagey with some details, the goal seemed clear: Google intended to blow up >> the carrier market (in the U.S. first) by moving phone distribution online, >> flattening it in the process. The idea was that you’d go to a website and >> pick the phone you wanted, then pick the *carrier* you wanted, pay, and >> you’d be done. >> >> Think about this for a second. Instead of going to the store of a single >> carrier and having a dozen shitty phones shoved in your face by salespeople >> that made commission, you’d be in total control of the process. The end >> result of consumers getting to choose their carriers (and phones and plans) >> was clear: major competition and subsequently a rush of better deals from >> said carriers to ensure customer activation and retention. >> >> Or, you could buy whatever phone you wanted *unlocked*. Eventually, >> pay-as-you-go SIM cards would pop up in the U.S. as a result. >> >> This was to be the dawn of the golden age of mobile in this country. As I >> wrote at the time: Apple And Google Just Tag Teamed The U.S. >> Carriers<http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/05/apple-google-carriers/>. >> I loved it. >> >> But it was never meant to be. >> >> What should have been obvious at the time but for whatever reason wasn’t >> (maybe because carrier representatives were at the event), the carriers >> hated this plan. And for good reason — it was going to turn them into dumb >> pipes that competed on price. There was no way they were going to let this >> fly, and they didn’t. Within a few months, citing weak sales of the Nexus >> One, Google scrapped their ambitious website and instead got fully in bed >> with the carriers. >> >> But there was more. >> >> What no one knew at the time, and I only heard months >> later<http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/10/google-nexus-one/>, >> was Google’s original vision for the Nexus One. Google intended to sell it >> for $99 without a contract and unlocked. Yes, a $99 unlocked phone, >> subsidized by Google ads. >> >> But the plan had one little problem: Google didn’t operate their own >> cellular network. They needed Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile to help >> them out. Google probably thought their open spectrum deal >> “win”<http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/20/did-google-trick-verizon-into-spending-billions-for-a-spectrum-auction-win/>in >> early 2008 gave them the leverage they needed here. Sadly, it did not. >> >> All of the carriers laughed in Google’s face when presented with the >> ambitious Nexus One plan. And given that Google had just signed the >> all-important deal with Verizon, it was never going to happen. >> >> So instead, at the Nexus One launch we got a website where you could >> indeed buy an unlocked Android phone — for $529. Nonstarter. >> >> Better yet, while they said they were committed at the time, Verizon and >> Sprint never even got around to supporting the Nexus One *at all*. >> That’s how much they were behind the project. >> >> To complicate matters further, behind the scenes, Verizon and Google were >> arguing over Net Neutrality rules. Verizon was opposed, Google was in >> favor. Then a funny thing happened. Google started supporting Verizon’s >> viewpoint on the matter! If you’re looking for the first post where I’m >> really, truly, pissed off at Google, look no further. >> >> It. Was. Total. Fucking. >> Bullshit.<http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/13/google-net-neutrality/> >> >> A few months later, guess what happened? Thanks to the Google/Verizon >> alliance on the matter, the FCC decided the compromised vision of Net >> Neutrality was just fine >> also<http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/21/verizon-google-fcc-net-neutrality/>. >> To be clear: Net Neutrality was thrown out in the wireless space because >> Google sided with Verizon’s ridiculous and horribly conflicted stance on >> the matter. >> >> The open spectrum enemy, turned Net Neutrality enemy, became Google’s >> bedmate thanks to a business deal. Straight up. Greed, for lack of a better >> word, is good. >> >> We got all of this thanks to Google’s desire for Android to take over the >> world. I commented earlier that they signed a deal with the devil — I >> wasn’t being facetious. They actually did! And they got away with it! >> >> I think about these things everyday that I see positive news about >> Android. It’s so wonderful that the platform which helped cripple Net >> Neutrality and is keeping the evil carriers in control is taking off. Make >> no mistake: Android is now the carriers’ best friend. >> >> Because Google sloppily decided to do the Motorola deal (driven by the >> full-on patent war <http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/09/vesper/>, for which >> Apple and Microsoft, and not Google, are largely to blame), and because the >> model isn’t great for all but the biggest >> player<http://parislemon.com/post/15418182445/one-out-of-three-aint-bad>, >> now the OEMs may be our best hope against the carrier/Android alliance. >> >> Eventually, many of them will try to do their own thing (perhaps even >> using Android as a base) because they’re not idiots, they see where the >> real money is: controlling the entire experience. Like Apple. >> >> All of this backstory knowledge fuels my rage. When I see Google talk >> about how “open” the platform >> is<http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/09/android-open/>, >> setting it up as the foil to the “closed” (and framed as “evil”) iPhone, I >> want to scream and rip someone’s head off. It’s not only the most extreme >> example of being disingenuous that I can ever recall seeing — it’s nuclear >> bullshit. >> >> Apple, for all the shit they get for being “closed” and “evil”, has >> actually done far more to wrestle control back from the carriers and put it >> into the hands of consumers. Google set off to help in this goal, then >> stabbed us all in the back and went the complete other way, to the side of >> the carriers. And because they smiled the entire time they were doing it >> and fed us this “open” bullshit, we thanked them for it. We’re still >> thanking them for it! >> >> When you think about it in the context of this election season we’re >> entering, it’s a brilliant political maneuver that Google has pulled off >> with Android. They’ve taken something they’ve done that’s actually bad for >> us and spun it in such a way that most people actually buy into it being >> good for us. >> >> And for the carriers, Android is the best thing ever because it’s the new >> “opiate for the masses <http://parislemon.com/post/15200195253/clopen>”. >> Everything shitty they’re doing is great because they’re doing it with >> Android — at least it’s not iOS. What a load of horseshit. >> >> I realize that the Android team at Google has a lot of good people doing >> great work. I know some of them. I respect them. But I cannot respect their >> decision to continue to work on this platform that perpetuates our >> imprisonment. I have to believe most simply chose not to think about these >> things. But they should. They really should. >> >> There’s no denying that there are upsides to open — a lot of them. But in >> the case of Android, “open <http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/26/open/>” has >> been hijacked and wildly contorted so as to mask the shady side of what’s >> really been going on. And it’s working. >> >> So that, ladies and gentleman, is why I hate Android. It has nothing to >> do with the actual product (which continues to improve every year and is >> quite good >> now<http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/14/iphone-galaxy-nexus-review/>). >> It has to do with a promise that was broken and swept under the rug. >> >> As crazy as it may sound to some of you, beyond a full OEM revolt (which >> could ultimately benefit the carriers as well), our hope now lies with >> Apple and Microsoft. >> >> Apple, because they put the consumer first and have proven time and time >> again that they will not bend to carrier bullshit and will often work >> against them behind the scenes. And they control the all-important Apple >> stores for distribution (and, of course, the App Store). >> >> Microsoft, because they have a model (many handsets on all carriers) that >> can potentially scale better than Apple’s can while still giving control >> (mostly) to the users. And they have Nokia on board with their plan. And >> they have intersections with products like Xbox. (Though it may be too >> late in the >> U.S.<http://parislemon.com/post/14840209963/the-windows-phone-problem-in-three-words-way-too-late> >> ) >> >> Perhaps more people will relate to this: I hate Android for the same >> reason that Severus Snape hates Harry Potter — the very sight reminds me of >> something so beautiful, that was taken. Except it’s worse. 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