Weh dah pegang toh ini..

Piye piye, bobotnya kayak passport juga atau seperti g4 yang enteng itu om
doc..

rahayu widodo, nir ing sambikolo

odhenk@ celaluh dual\ON black
On Sep 20, 2015 7:10 PM, "Prayudi Aji Murtolo" <pray.andro...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Cukup smooth kok om Budi
> Kebetulan saya pegang juga Note 5, jadi bisa dikompare
>
> Dimensi nya mirip Passport cuma lebar nya lebih banyak Passport
> Slide out nya smooth juga seperti 9810
>
> Kamera nya diatas Passport tapi masih di bawah LG G4 / Note 5. Oh ya, ngga
> bunyi crekreekkkk
> :)
> Semoga cuma masalah Software aja sehingga Update selanjutnya bisa lebih
> bagus
> On Sep 20, 2015 11:37, "Budi H Roesdihardjo" <pocagr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Siap om igor
>> Terima~kasih infonya..
>> Procinya kayak milik lg g4 yang syahdu anget itu..
>> RAM 3gb buat loli 5.1 gimana yaa..
>> Karena running Android RAM 4gb serta proci 810 di loli kayaknya cukupan
>> apik kerjanya..
>>
>> Habis toel toel note 5,balik ke samsung galaxy ace2, berasa sedang
>> nggowes sepeda hardtail di tanjakan nagrek garut di tahun 1950an, belum ada
>> aspal disana..
>>
>> rahayu widodo, nir ing sambikolo
>>
>> odhenk@ celaluh dual\ON black
>> On Sep 20, 2015 11:25, "andrew igor" <macon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ‎Om odhenk denget" sih
>>> Ram 3Gb
>>> Proc snapdragon 808
>>> Camera 14mpx
>>>
>>> Lainnya ga tau, mesti toel om doc yang biasanya dapet bocoran. Keyboard
>>> kayak passport bisa buat slide layar.
>>>
>>>
>>> Salam
>>> Igor
>>>
>>> *From: *Budi H Roesdihardjo
>>> *Sent: *Minggu, 20 September 2015 09.43
>>> *To: *id-android
>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Blackberry Venice: Hardware Keyboard Done
>>> Right at the Perfect Time [feedly]
>>>
>>> Apakah sdh ada info speck detailnya:
>>> Layar
>>> Processor
>>> RAM
>>> Kamera
>>> Batre
>>> Dimensi serta bobot?
>>>
>>> rahayu widodo, nir ing sambikolo
>>>
>>> odhenk@ celaluh dual\ON black
>>> On Sep 20, 2015 09:22, "Eko Prasetiyo" <ekopraset...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> *Blackberry Venice: Hardware Keyboard Done Right at the Perfect Time*
>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice-hardware-keyboard-done-right-at-the-perfect-time/>
>>>> // *xda*
>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice-hardware-keyboard-done-right-at-the-perfect-time/>
>>>> *-developers*
>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice-hardware-keyboard-done-right-at-the-perfect-time/>
>>>>
>>>> Blackberry helped shape the foundations of modern smartphones, being
>>>> one of the first brands to bring smartphone features and mobile internet
>>>> services to mainstream consumers.
>>>>
>>>> These primeval smartphones were also powerful in enterprise, and for
>>>> years they remained the favorite choice of corporate America and big
>>>> multinationalsThose times seemingly faded with the rise of Android and iOS
>>>> as truly “smart” alternative platforms, and Blackberry’s stagnation costed
>>>> it reputation points that will not easily be regained.
>>>>
>>>> Cue the Blackberry Androids: we’ve been hearing about the
>>>> once-monolithic smartphone maker’s incursion into Android for a while now,
>>>> but it was not until recent leaks of the Blackberry Passport running
>>>> Android <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4qimLLBHg> that we could
>>>> finally believe what we wanted to hear all along. The Blackberry Venice
>>>> also saw some leaks, this being a built-for-Android kind of phone that
>>>> tries to marry the best of the open OS with the best of Blackberry.
>>>>
>>>> Can it do so, and if so, how? Rather than looking at an illusory
>>>> specification sheet from dubious leaks, I want to put forth some arguments
>>>> regarding the *user experience* that the Venice will offer, deduced or
>>>> inferred from the leaked images and videos that *are* certain. The
>>>> first thing one can notice about this new Blackberry is the slider
>>>> keyboard, which is what I primarily want to tackle below.
>>>>
>>>> *Keyboard and Orientation*
>>>>
>>>> The physical keyboards of Blackberry have always been a favorite
>>>> amongst teenagers and businessmen alike. While software keyboards today
>>>> have become very efficient due to increasingly intelligent word prediction
>>>> and the ability to iterate constantly through updates, physical keyboards
>>>> cannot be beaten in terms of maximizing simplicity and effectiveness in one
>>>> shot. Moreover, Blackberry keyboards are excellent and the company is an
>>>> expert at making them ergonomic and efficient. That being said, I saw some
>>>> concerns raised about the Venice that I want to explore.
>>>>
>>>> There is a niche to please, and there is no better player to fill that
>>>> particular void than Blackberry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unlike traditional (and beloved) Android slider phones, such as the
>>>> Original Droid and the T-Mobile G1, the Venice’s keyboard is in portrait.
>>>> This leads people to intuitively assume that this is an inefficient
>>>> orientation, and there are arguments both in favor and against. Software
>>>> keyboards really cripple landscape mode but having a hardware keyboard on
>>>> landscape allows for comfortable typing while still retaining the full
>>>> screen. Browsing the web on slider phones back then was also a pleasurable
>>>> experience because you had a more-traditional PC-like view of websites and
>>>> had the keyboard ready when you need to input a URL or information, with no
>>>> obstructions to your view.
>>>>
>>>> That screen is smaller than how we remember it, and so is the keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> I argue that the Venice’s slider orientation is better, though, because
>>>> of the way Android has evolved and the way Blackberry has always been. If
>>>> you were to grab an old Droid or T-mobile G1 today, you would immediately
>>>> notice just how small they are. We have fond memories of their efficient
>>>> landscape keyboards, but these were also small. Now, the Venice is more in
>>>> line with current flagships, and it is said to have a 5.4 to 5.5-inch
>>>> screen. The screen is also curved to shave off size on the side bezels,
>>>> leading to what looks to be an efficient size. A quick look at old pictures
>>>> of Android phones with slider keyboards, like the 117mm tall G1 and the
>>>> 116mm tall Droid, show that the keys don’t actually stretch from end to end
>>>> and don’t exploit the full length of these phones.
>>>>
>>>> The Blackberry Venice’s keyboard does take up all available length,
>>>> however, and with the alleged 5.4-inch screen plus the small bezels after
>>>> the curve, that would most likely translate to the same length. So, in
>>>> reality, the Venice’s keyboard wouldn’t be much different from the ones we
>>>> loved on other phones in terms of pure dimensions. There is another factor
>>>> worth considering: Blackberry specializes in this portrait keyboard setup.
>>>>
>>>> “Re-imagined sliders and hardware keyboards are some of the things that
>>>> enthusiasts have been craving for a while”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We’ve seen them on so many of their devices before the touchscreen
>>>> smartphone, and we loved those keyboards then. Because of this, I believe
>>>> there is little to fear in terms of keyboard size, ergonomics, and
>>>> effectivity. But the keyboard is not just for typing, which ties into the
>>>> browsing experience mentioned before:
>>>>
>>>> The keyboard functions as a trackpad, a brilliant implementation that
>>>> allows users to browse the web. We’ve seen similar approaches from
>>>> Blackberry before, and this wouldn’t feel like a Blackberry flagship
>>>> without something of the sort. The trackpads and wheels of older
>>>> Blackberries helped cement mobile internet browsing pre-touchscreen, and a
>>>> trackpad it still remains a comfortable alternative to browse without
>>>> covering the screen with your fingers. The other complaint I’ve seen raised
>>>> is that the landscape layout for the keyboard and screen makes for a better
>>>> browsing experience. However, I don’t think that’s particularly universal
>>>> in 2015, where most websites, and mobile websites specifically, have taken
>>>> on vertical designs that make touchscreen and portrait scrolling easier.
>>>>
>>>> *Two Keyboards, One Phone*
>>>>
>>>> The Blackberry Venice has software keyboards against it, because these
>>>> have made leaps of progress in the past few years, especially with giants
>>>> like Swiftkey constantly iterating and expanding. Even OEMs figure out
>>>> amazing keyboard features that are simply impossible to realize through
>>>> standard (traditional) hardware, such as gesture typing and keyboard
>>>> resizing. But nevertheless, there is a niche to please
>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/would-you-get-a-phone-with-a-hardware-keyboard-in-2015/>,
>>>> and there is no better player to fill that particular void than Blackberry.
>>>>
>>>> Then there is the fact that, while the phone might have a physical
>>>> keyboard as a main selling point, you don’t have to use it all the time. I
>>>> imagine most people won’t slide it out if they need to reply *“k thx”*
>>>> to a text, but I can see most power users opting for it when typing out
>>>> long e-mails or important messages. Blackberry could also bring forth
>>>> optimizations we aren’t aware of yet, which would only help by giving users
>>>> more options to ease the transition – or return, rather – to hardware
>>>> keyboards.
>>>>
>>>> *Enterprise and Productivity*
>>>>
>>>> The Blackberry Venice also comes at precisely the right time to reclaim
>>>> the Enterprise crown, and on the correct OS this time. Android has been
>>>> eyeing this sector for a while now, and in the past two years, it has
>>>> consistently improved in terms of security, productivity, and services to
>>>> grab its fair share. Android at Work, the contributions from Samsung Knox,
>>>> Blackberry’s own contributions to Android, new security measures and the
>>>> upcoming routinely security patches, and the plethora of rich updates to
>>>> Google Drive and Google Docs mean that Android is now a more attractive
>>>> platform for all sorts of corporations and businesses, and Blackberry has
>>>> the perfect name to scoop up new users.
>>>>
>>>> For years, Blackberries were synonymous with businessmen, lawyers, and
>>>> the like. They were their own status symbol at the time, just like Palms
>>>> were as well. There is still some nostalgia for all of that. It wouldn’t be
>>>> surprising if the Blackberry Venice could channel the old Blackberry fame
>>>> through Android, with its hardware keyboard, and by sporting enhanced
>>>> productivity features such as device-wide smart search.
>>>>
>>>> *Final Thoughts*
>>>>
>>>> The Venice is exciting due to a plethora of reasons, and unlike with
>>>> many other flagships, none of them have to do with the phone’s price nor
>>>> internal specifications. This device has caught the world’s eye because of
>>>> its ambitious design, from a company known for great hardware but that
>>>> desperately needs an innovative comeback. Android desperately needs truly
>>>> useful innovation as well, and now that devices offer such similar user
>>>> experiences, the Venice can stand out not by necessarily going forward, but
>>>> by looking backwards and at simpler times. Re-imagined sliders and hardware
>>>> keyboards are some of the things that enthusiasts have been craving for a
>>>> while, and I can envision no better set of conditions nor a better context
>>>> for this new release. We hope it lives up to its potential, but either way,
>>>> one thing is certain: it’ll be a much better option than the keyboard case
>>>> crap that Samsung released last month.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check Out XDA’s Blackberry Venice Forum >>
>>>> <http://forum.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice>
>>>>
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