On 4/29/2025 1:33 AM, John Levine wrote:
I don't expect MUAs like Outlook or Thunderbird (or for us old guys Alpine) to 
support DKIM2 either, for
ths same reason.  They submit new mail to their MSA and it takes care of DKIM2 
signing.  You know, just
like it takes care of DKIM signing now.


There is a difference between implementation choices and a design that constrains those choices.

DKIM can be, and has been implemented, in originating and receiving MUAs.  Works fine.  There is, of course, nothing wrong with choosing to implement in by platform operators, but the DKIM architecture very carefully does not require this.

There seems to be a continuing need for people to be more diligently indoctrinated into the perspective represented by the End to End Arguments.


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Dave Crocker

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