Tobias Herkula wrote in
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 |Von: Dave Crocker <[email protected]>
 |Datum: Dienstag, 3. Juni 2025 um 15:45
 |An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
 |Betreff: [Ietf-dkim] New product; not just an evolution
 ..
 |The Porsche 911 example nicely confuses differences in components with \
 |differences in function and market segment.
 |
 |In fact, it's role, nature, and product segment have remained constant, \
 |throughout the changes.
 |
 |"The Porsche 911 model series (pronounced Nine Eleven or in German<https\
 |://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language>: Neunelf) is a family of \
 |German two-door, high performance rear-engine<https://en.wikipedia.org/w\
 |iki/Rear-engine_design> sports cars<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports\
 |_car>,
 |...
 |Though the 911 core concept has remained largely unchanged..."

That is not true btw.  It is now a four seater that weighs up to
1900 kilogram.  Whereas Caterham still weighs about 600 kilogram,
still following Chapman's "as light as possible".

To extend this example, Porsche would have been bankrupt wouldn't
they have introduced the light roadster, which just recently had
its jubilee if i recall correctly.

And they got rich with SUVs which have nothing at all to do with
Porsche, as *every* elder Porsche engineer (i have ever heard of)
would tell you.

Therefore *Porsche*, as an example, requires one thing: *iterating
forward*.  You have to change to stay the same.
And carry something you care for alongside, even if it is in
itself, at the moment, not the main profit.

  ...
 |Similarly, DKIM2 acknowledges its heritage while signaling meaningful \
 |evolution. DKIM’s goal was to let a domain “claim some responsibility \
 |for a message.” DKIM2 strengthens that model by making responsibility \
 |more structured and durable across complex delivery paths. Each intermed\
 |iary shall now assert and sign its role, making trust and accountability \
 |traceable end-to-end.
 |
 |In addition, DKIM2 borrows alignment from DMARC, a mechanism that has \
 |proven highly effective against phishing and abuse. This isn't scope \
 |creep, it's a natural extension to improve the reliability and security \
 |of domain-based trust assertions in today’s threat landscape.

This sound impressive and convincing and fine, but i can assure
you honest speech in a trustful relationship gets over all that
with a simple "that is all included".  Especially if, shall
further questions arise, that answer can be technically verified.
Talking Porsche.  That .. is more than advertising!

(Having said that i do not mind.  I am for the Turbo that they now
call dirty battery cars.)

You may call that however you want, i for myself will continue to
call it an enhanced iterated DKIM for as long as that goal seems
to exist on the horizon.

Having the honour.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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