Greetings all,

Your chairs have been discussing the agenda for our meeting in Madrid on 22 July. The most important next thing we believe we need to do to move the work forward is adopt a document with the base protocol for what goes in the header of messages to accomplish our chartered tasks. There are currently three proposals on the table:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-crocker-dkim-dkor/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gondwana-dkim2-header/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nurpmeso-dkim-access-control-diff-changes/

With that in mind, we'd like the main order of business to be what changes would be required in order to get any of those documents in shape to be adoptable as our working group draft. (Note that the word was "adoptable", not "finished". We're asking, "If we picked this document as our base spec, what more -- or less -- would it need for you to consider using it as a starting point for the work.) The Gondwana draft came out of one of our "starting point" drafts in the charter, so we'd like to hear specifics about why it is not appropriate for adoption if you feel that there's nothing that could be added or subtracted to make it so, but for all of the documents we'd like you to make an effort to say what would need to change to make you satisfied it could go forward.

Your chairs would be fine if you started this discussion on the list this coming week and we can continue it in real time on the 22nd.

So, regarding the agenda: We are expecting you've all read the above documents at this point, so we're not going to have presentations on the documents; just discussion about adoptability. We expect that to take up the bulk of the time. Other than that, we'd like to have some discussion on what other documents we might want to adopt, and on the status of the motivation document. For the other documents: There is a bounce processing draft and a modification algebra draft that seem to be specific companions to the header draft; there are the Ed25519, hash adaptivity, and DNS drafts that have to do with using different has algorithms; and then there's the examples draft that could be part of the deployment guide, or might simply be folded into some other draft. We don't need to spend a huge amount of time discussing that, but we think it will go faster in real-time than on the list. For the motivations document, we want to get an idea of what it's eventual role will be: Is it just a place for us to keep track of motivations but we're not planning on publishing it, or is it going to become the basis for the deployment guide to give us an overview of the entire system and how it works, or something else?

So here's what we're thinking of for the agenda:

1. Administrivia [ 10 minutes ]
2. Headers draft adoptability [ 60 minutes ]
3. Motivations draft [ 20 minutes ]
4. Other drafts [ 20 minutes ]
5. AOB [ 10 minutes ]

We expect the chairs will run all of the discussion, but it would be useful if draft authors were ready at the mic to answer questions as we go along.

Are there any other specific agenda items needed? We can always re-adjust the times, and if we get through things surprisingly quickly, we can add that time to AOB and get into technical details.

We expect that after this meeting, we'll quickly thereafter formally adopt some protocol document(s) on the list and we'll try to hold an online interim in the not too distant future to really dive into technical work.

Looking forward to seeing and/or hearing you, in person or remotely, in Madrid.

Pete and Murray

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