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In message <[email protected]>, Bron
Gondwana <[email protected]> writes

>    Richard got back to me and doesn't like nd=,

it required the sender to do extra work just in case their email was to
be forwarded -- so the incentives were all wrong. Additionally, the
proposal to use extra MX records to deduce the domain that might do that
forwarding was unlikely to work especially widely...

>    so in version 4 I used 
>    his proposal of pp= instead, putting responsibility on the 
>    receiving system to provide information about the domain it's 
>    signing on behalf of, 

email turns up with [email protected], and the next hop is

        [email protected]
        rt=fred@wherever
        d=bigplatform.com
        pp=vanitydomain.com

and the validity of this checked by resolving _pp.vanitydomain.com and
determining if a TXT record names bigplatform.com as a legitimate
forwarder of their mail...

this allows BigPlatform to forward email that arrives to
vanitydomain.com without having to obtain signing keys from the owner of
vanitydomain.com

if fred is a bad person then they can be blamed appropriately

>    Anyway, we can discuss the various approaches in Montreal!  It's 
>    good to have both documented.

or on the list of course...

BTW: the pp= mechanism is relatively new so the DKIM2 keys draft
probably won't be altered before the deadline -- but 

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-clayton-dkim2-spec/

is there for your reading enjoyment

whilst I am writing, "+1" for the WG adopting Bron's headers document

- -- 
richard @ highwayman . com                       "Nothing seems the same
                          Still you never see the change from day to day
                                And no-one notices the customs slip away"

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