Hi!

On 12/19/25 20:26, Inveigle.net wrote:
On 9/12/2025 6:37 am, Hannah Stern wrote:
IIRC it's part of the design of DKIM (both 1 and 2) that signatures are usable for validating only "soon" after the message has been originally sent/signed (ideally the "x" time of a DKIM1 signature, or the maximum validity period of a DKIM2 signature as defined by the drafts).

Sorry for the late reply. I have been unwell and am a bit behind on my mailing list reading.

Timely verification has never been anything more than a recommendation (6. Verifier Actions). The section you are referring to (3.1 Selectors) does refer to the removal of the public key after transitioning to a new selector, however, it is more a colloquial description of how keys may be managed than a set rule and imposes no specific requirements on implementation or use.

Yes, I can see this.

As far as I understand the latest DKIM2 draft, a signature does have a mandatory timestamp. There's no expiry timestamp anymore (unlike DKIM1 "x"). Verifiers just "MAY ignore" signatures older than 14 days (I'd think that would mean a fail because just ignoring this one signature and going on with other signatures may not make much sense anymore, at least if the full chain is validated).

The spec is otherwise unspecific regarding key longevity and intentionally avoids dictating operational policies. When applying current best practice, rotating keys regularly, a strict application of 3.1 would see verifiers failing to verify messages that should be verifiable due to either company policy or applicable industry guidelines/requirements.

It should also be noted that the same section indicates signers are ill- advised to reuse selectors, yet that suggestion is routinely overlooked in favour of ease of deployment.

I've not seen advise about not reusing selectors at least in the latest draft-clayton-dkim2-spec (v5).

Regards,
R. Latimer

Kind regards,

Hannah.
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