FWIW, there was a separate document that was specifically about DKIM results 
with the intended recipient to be the DKIM signer.   This is unrelated to the 
FBL, but might still be interesting.  I suspect it would need a bit of work for 
DKIM2.

Happy to talk more about DKIM-FBL if folks are interested.  I saw it came up 
during an IETF session last week as well, though I can't seem to find that 
reference now.

-- 
Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy
Comcast
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Levine <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2026 4:24 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: [Ietf-dkim] Re: Discussion around ESP feedback / abuse handling
> 
> It appears that Tom Ellengold  <[email protected]> said:
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Bron suggested that I reach out here as there have been questions
> >regarding how DKIM2 will affect FBL's and abuse handling.
> >
> >Are there any expected changes or expectations around abuse handling as
> part of this?
> 
> At this point the answer is definitely maybe.
> 
> We expect DKIM2 to supplant and eventually replace DKIM1, so that will have
> some effect on DMARC.
> One issue is what aligned means when there's a chain of signatures with
> different d=.  My inclination is to say that if any of the domains in a valid 
> chain
> match the From header domain, that's aligned, but we have to work that out.
> 
> Another is DMARC reporting.  I suppose we could just say to report DKIM2
> success the same as DKIM1 but I suspect some more flags will be useful.
> 
> For FBLs, the current draft has a f=feedback flag to ask for feedback, and
> f=feedhere flag that privacy preserving forwarders can use to ask that reports
> be sent to them and not farther up the chain.  At this point there's no more
> details about what the feedback is or how you decide if and where to send it,
> but see
> draft-brotman-dkim-fbl-06 for a plausible approach.
> 
> R's,
> John
> 
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