----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Ellermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org>


> A jabber log is now also available:
> http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-logs/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2005-11-07.html

Ned Freed gets the "Oscar" for the following statement:

   "And my point is that the things you claim DKIM will break
    are already broken. DKIM isn't going to break them any more."

Other notable statement, (I can't tell who):

   "the problem is that DKIM has lots of potential that scares
    the **** out of us."

For whom I have recommended reading: "Who moved my cheese?"
http://www.whomovedmycheese.com/

My personal comments:

  "The big picture will required an integrated solution,
   that only a few players can do and we hate them all."

  "Why not just fix SPF?"

Rephrasing Ned: 

  "Its already broken! That is why we are here."
 
For which I add:

  "We broke it, it own it. Therefore we fix it."

About the unknown:

  "We can lead the sysop to DKIM, not what he will do with it."

About the greater good:

  "Breaking is in the eyes of the beholder!"

  "Spam all you want!... as long its not for me."

  "Tell me again why how I should spent my money?"

-- 
Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com






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