On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:59 PM, SM wrote:

At 06:16 08-06-2007, Hector Santos wrote:
There has got to be a way to resolve that TLD vs domain ownership level issue. It seems so simple, but it might require some initial two queries. In lieu of that, Doug Idea sounds like the only real way to solve this - the client must be aware of the gTLD and ccTLD or there must be a way to extract this information.

It's not as simple as it sounds. It may take a long time to get that information out of all the gTLDs and ccTLDs. I doubt they'll even agree to a registry for that. It's not a technical problem.

It can be simple. Your view overlooks significant motivations registries would have to enroll their domain. An enrollment process could be fairly simple and easily automated via a web based response (via an encoded link) sent to the SOA record addresses. It seems this process and the these results should be published by IANA. An alternative to the use of email as a confirmation method, could be to have registries publish an "illegal" domain of "_REGISTRY" for example. This might require the cooperation of ICANN or other organizations to permit the use of such a record.

Only owners of these domains would be able to enroll as a registry domain. Their motivation would be to curtail searches which attempt to either begin or end at their domain. Such searches may occur as a result of several protocols. Enrollment into a registry domain list would offer a general means to curtail all such searches.

Many organizations internally develop these lists, as such lists provide an instrumental means for limiting domain related searches. Use of such lists is not restricted to just DNS. It seems wholly appropriate to provide a means for domain owners to directly indicate the nature of their domain. It should not require a great deal of time for such a list registration process to become reasonably comprehensive. The overall number of such domains will likely be a few 1000. A very small number compared to the 5 million daily domain additions and deletions out of more than 100 million which challenges any scheme attempting to track domains. The rate of change of such a list should also appear glacial in comparison.

All parent domains must be listed before a sub-domain would be allowed. It might help limit abuse by also allowing registry domains to indicate whether there are any valid registry domains below the domain they are registering.

-Doug



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