I was curious by Scott comment re SPF. 

Is there a class of spam that cannot get a DKIM signature? 

I would think botnets would be that class, as they usually infect computers and 
not sure they could DKIM sign as it would require them to set a DNS entry too. 
Knowing that botnets are 70% of spam, if DKIM could solve this one it would be 
great. 

so my question to add to your question "Does the presence of a signature 
provide any objective data about the goodness or badness of the signer?" is: 
is there a class of spam that cannot get a DKIM signature? 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave CROCKER" <d...@dcrocker.net> 
To: "Franck Martin" <fra...@genius.com> 
Cc: "DKIM WG" <ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org> 
Sent: Saturday, 1 August, 2009 4:04:28 PM GMT +12:00 Fiji 
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM adoption 



Franck Martin wrote: 
> Yes the reputation of the domain override things, but what happens when 
> it is the first time a domain is seen? Does DKIM help or not? 


Does the presence of a signature provide any objective data about the goodness 
or badness of the signer? 

If the claim is that it does, there needs to be an explanation of the basis, 
because I don't see it. 

d/ 
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Dave Crocker 
Brandenburg InternetWorking 
bbiw.net 
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