Hi Hannes

Klaas' s post reflects my view on what the IETF cannot do. It does not  define 
what is or is not personal data.

To answer as  my view as to what the IETF can do.

I believe the IETF  can explain to the technical audience the potential privacy 
 implications of choices they make. It can provide background and guidance  as 
to the ecosystem that our work will need to be deployed into. It can ensure 
that those working in the IETF have the resources  to understand both the 
terminology and the issues of privacy as it pertains to our work.

 The Internet is now in integral part of the economies and culture of the 
world. That integration is only going to continue as ubiquitous computing 
occurs in all aspects of life. The IETF can assist in making our work 
deployable in the wider societal construct in which it must exist.


Does that help?  It seems a little verbose to me  but  I think it provides the 
answer and the context.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Klaas Wierenga [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 10 September 2012 12:58
To: Hannes Tschofenig
Cc: Bryan McLaughlin (brmclaug); [email protected]; S Moonesamy
Subject: Re: [ietf-privacy] draft-moonesamy-privacy-identifiers-00


On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hannes,

> Could you explain this sentence a bit more? 
> I am not sure what the IETF cannot or can do (in your view).
> 
> On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Bryan McLaughlin (brmclaug) wrote:
> 
>> the IETF, cannot determine the requirement for consent and the nature of an 
>> identifier to be personal data. 

this requirement is a political/legal matter rather than a technical one, i.e. 
out of scope for the IETF

Klaas

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