At 17:07 28-02-2013, Eric Burger wrote:
I think the point is we have a clue, and we disagree. What is a person without a clue to do?

The person can convince Alissa and Hannes to suggest text. :-)

At 17:14 28-02-2013, David Singer wrote:
I think you're being a bit brief here. It's not a security problem with the design of the protocol; if it carries data in the clear, it never pretended to be secure. It's a problem that it was the wrong protocol to be used, for sure. We're concerned about intrinsic security and privacy problems in our specifications, not the mis-use of them (though we can warn, I guess).

Sorry about that. There is usually a security policy. This is not part of the protocol; it's about what security measures should be taken.

ditto. There was nothing wrong with the design of the unencrypted line; it was the wrong 'protocol' to use.

Yes.  The issue is related to information classification and disclosure.

BTW, the cases can be argued both ways. Given that privacy is complex it is easier to explain some points in terms of security.

Regards,
-sm
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