I've come into this discussion rather late, however there is at least one salient point which I believe that Keith Moore has argued rather well... In my understanding the role of the IETF is to promote the logical growth and evolution of the Internet Protocols. Whilst 'vendors' have massive technical resources at their disposal, one thing that they are not, is impartial...this is what I have always believed that the IETF's role is! There is no denying the benefits that companies like Cisco have brought to the Internet, but their kotive is, quite simply, profit based....no more, no less. On another note - to the guy who said 'this is way out of my pay grade' - I would have to say...since when did pay reflect IQ? Knowledge and insight are a valuable and rare commodity anyway...if we start discriminating an the basis of income then all of these discussion will become irrelevent within ten years, if not less! (i'm not gonna name any names here! :-) ) Kind regards Martin
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