Let me give you an example of where this didn't work recently. At San
Diego, we had back-to-back meetings of WREC followed by OPES BoF and CDNP
BoF. For the most part, there was a very large overlap in the attendance.
If you did not forgoe the coffee break and - literally! - run between the
rooms, you did not get a seat. If you were silly enough to engage in even a
1 minute conversation and walk slowly, you might not have gotten into the
room at all. This is of course further exacerbated by those who do the IETF
equivalent of spreading their towels out on the loungers by the pool before
going for breakfast...
Some folks who had contributed were excluded because the doors had to be
closed in order to make the meeting audible. In one case, the door was
opened to admit someone who was on the agenda as speaking.
I don't believe that any of the solutions offered so far will work because
they depend on the good manners of strangers which, frankly, is largely
non-existent at IETF meetings.
So, my only suggestion is that WG chairs strongly encourage work to be done
on the mailing lists, a deference towards non-presentation formats and the
strong enforcement of timelines in meetings.... which is, erm, what we're
supposed to encourage anyway...
John
At 07:35 AM 20/12/00 -0800, Melinda Shore wrote:
> > What happened to the proven and time-honored technique of
>getting
> > to a meeting early if you want a seat? I know the argument is
>that
> > we want to hang out in the hallways until the last minute and
>still
> > get a seat (because we are more "important" than a bunch of the
>people
> > that did get there early), but still...
>
>I think the problem could, in part, be alleviated
>by physically ejecting from the room people either
>playing games on their laptops or checking their
>portfolios.
>
>Melinda
>(and I'm not kidding)
>
>
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