It's not a question of whether Fleming's opinions were popular - it's just that they 
were wildly irrelevant to the work of this list.  Having read many of his postings, I 
can only conclude that either (a) he was deliberately flame-baiting (and often 
successfully) or (b) his clue meter for "playing well with others" has actually bent 
the bottom pin and lodged itself in negative territory.  
 
FWIW, I concur with Harald's decision to employ this extreme sanction.  Knowing 
Harald, I am confident it was only after much careful consideration, and after many 
efforts to resolve the issue in other ways, that he did so.  -- Ian 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
        Sent: Thu 10/25/2001 1:08 PM 
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: Jim Fleming's posting privilleges have been revoked
        
        

        I guess those of us who might be interested in hearing all opinions--and not
        just those that agree with your own--are out of luck, eh?  I can decide for
        myself which messages I do or do not wish to read; I don't need your help.
        
          -- Anthony
        
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Harald Alvestrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 20:20
        Subject: Jim Fleming's posting privilleges have been revoked
        
        
        > After having read the 4 messages that Jim Fleming sent to the list after
        > having received my warning note, I have revoked Jim Fleming's posting
        > privilleges to the IETF list.
        >
        > This revocation will remain in effect for the next month.
        >
        >                 Harald T. Alvestrand
        >                  IETF Chair
        >
        >
        
        

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