rather than revising the RFC maybe it would be good to develop some
recommendations for the principles or features of a useful framework?

I am also guessing that most of the ietf would prefer NOT to put up
with further debate on this topic. Maybe we should move over to the
Internet Societal Discussion list??

vint

At 12:01 PM 5/1/2002 +0200, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
>On Wed, 1 May 2002, vint cerf wrote:
>
>> At 03:00 PM 5/1/2002 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > For instance, it could assert that the assumed
>> >state was that information was in the public domain, and resist the move to
>> >assume all information innately carries enforceable restrictions ab initio.
>> 
>> current copyright law says that from the moment of creation all rights
>> lie with the creator of the intellectual property. That is, you don't
>> have to register for the material to be copyrighted. You have to take
>> a conscious action under present law to make something public domain.
>> (You have to make a declaration that it is public domain). 
>> 
>> That may not be what you have in mind, of course, but it is the present
>> state of affairs in the US and other countries subscribing to the Berne
>> Convention on Copyright.
>> 
>
>The initial Berne convention is enough. The worry is more regarding the 
>extension made like by WIPO/OMPI. (like the Article 11) This type of 
>extension generates DMCA, EUCD and all the horror used by the editor and 
>not the author itself. 
>
>For example, the GNU General Public License is using the classical 
>copyright from the Berne convention. The use is smart and protect the four 
>freedoms of Free Software concept. But now extension is a threat to these 
>freedoms... (you know, equilibrium.)
>
>I'm sure, the idea/intention behind the RFC ("...global legal 
>framework..") is good but I'm worry of the use that could be done by 
>"international" organisation like WIPO (funded by big companies) to use 
>that to extend the arsenal of law to stop the natural extension of the 
>cyberspace.  
>
>So, on the pratical side, do you see that as an issue or not ? If yes, do 
>you plan to make a new version ? and obsolete the other one.
>
>Thanks a lot for your excellent work.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Alexandre Dulaunoy
>
>http://www.ael.be/

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