Radical anti-spammers, like other kinds of radicals, make unreasonable demands, employ illegal methods such as extortion and terrorism (or techno-terrorism, in this case), feel there is no other point of view other than their own, and that other points of views can be supressed. They feel that because the law won't give them what they want, that they can employ whatever methods they feel like to achieve their goals.
Frequently, they do more harm to their goals as a result. For example, Palestinian radicals blow themselves up. Radical Jewish settlers create illegal settlements, and terrorize the local population. When the leadership of a group doesn't repudiate and root out the radicals, significant harm is done to their goals. For example, the Israeli government repudiates and cracks down on illegal settlements. While the Palestinian government doesn't repudiate the Palestinian radicals. The result is a loss of credibility for the Palestinians. By contract, the actions of the radical settlers inflaming the Palestinians is clearly harmful to Israel, but has little effect on the credibility of the Israeli government. Some might think it is inappropriate to compare violent terrorism to techno-terrorism. The difference is primarilly that techno-terrorism doesn't result in loss of life. Just crashed computers. But the mentality is essentially the same. Radical Anti-spammers are willing to give their jobs and livelihood for their beliefs. And like the Palestinians, the lies, abuse, and misdeeds of the radical anti-spammers discredit the entire group, because the leadership refuses to root them out. The leadership is itself radical. --Dean On Thu, 29 May 2003, [UTF-8] John Loughney wrote: > Hi, > > What is a 'radical anti-spammer'? > > ---------- > > This is the _false_ assertion of > radical anti-spammers, who seem to me to be the abusers. Chris Neill > (antispammer open relay abuser eventually fired from Verio--he was > ironically, an abuse admin) was shocked to learn he was't anonymous, like > he thought. > > The claims made by antispammers about open relays are false. Type 1 > spammers seem to get that, judging by their behavior. But radical > antispammers don't. > > --Dean > > On Wed, 28 May 2003, John Stracke wrote: > > > Dean Anderson wrote: > > > > >We are lucky that spammers don't get a discount > > > > > Open relays give them a five-finger discount. > > > > -- > > /===============================================================\ > > |John Stracke |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > |Principal Engineer|http://www.centive.com | > > |Centive |My opinions are my own. | > > |===============================================================| > > |"Power corrupts; Powerpoint corrupts absolutely." -- Vint Cerf | > > \===============================================================/ > > > > > > > > > > > >